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Recently searching on youtube for some knife reviews I came across this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DjXnyhNOyA

Now while Im all for kids in the boy scouts having knives and learning how to use them (thats where I learned), It makes me mad to see someone portraying knives in such an improper way especially when they associate things like stabbing and killing with the boy scouts. Its this kind of ignorant ranting that makes leaders in the scouts feel like they need to shelter their kids from knives, guns, and other percieved to be "threatening" objects. I deffinitely understand where this guy is coming from, though, and I do feel that the baning of all knives in boy scouts is a mistake. This, however, is not the way to deal with it, and I feel like this video just portrays knives as dangerous weapons and not as the tools they really are. Also, as an Eagle scout, I feel like this video paints both scouts and eagle scouts in a very bad light, and I pretty much think this guy is an idiot. What do you think?
Ryan
 
That is only in England.

What do you expect in a country where you can't even enjoy the sport of shooting like us.

No offense to our British brothers intended.


Tostig
 
i think this guy is hilarious and he is being satiracal about his own love of knives. seriously he is funny. I dont think calling him an idiot is fair. He was not being serious, he was being funny. You need to not take these kinds of videos so seriously
 
He's referencing a policy in the UK, home of the:

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Non-Stabbing Kitchen Knife :D

But back to the whiney YouTube video: it's all tongue-in-cheek. Check out his other videos. Poorly done... but still satire.
 
He's kinda funny. No John Stewart, but points for trying.
All the same, I hadn't heard about the knife thing. To put it mildly, that really burns my bacon. That kind of rule is enacted by the same kind of people who, in earlier times, burned books they didn't like. Boy scouts are some of the most responsible kids in their age group. What's more, a person who goes into the wild without a knife is either an idiot, or a dead idiot.

I never thought I'd ever, ever, EVER say this, but:

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS, you pricks.
 
snorkem said:
i think this guy is hilarious and he is being satiracal about his own love of knives. seriously he is funny. I dont think calling him an idiot is fair. He was not being serious, he was being funny. You need to not take these kinds of videos so seriously
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I realize he's just trying to be funny but its just these type of videos that people take out of context and use to justify banning things such as knives. All I'm saying is that he should probably be more prudent about how he chooses to satirize such a touchy subject to begin with.
 
symphonyincminor said:
He's referencing a policy in the UK, home of the:

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Non-Stabbing Kitchen Knife :D

But back to the whiney YouTube video: it's all tongue-in-cheek. Check out his other videos. Poorly done... but still satire.
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Thanks for the photos. Both of those "Non-Stabbing Kitchen Knives" have plenty of belly. Hone the edge razor sharp and you have a formidable slashing weapon. Anyone who has seen what a barong or parang can do will know exactly what I mean.
 
Tostig said:
That is only in England.

What do you expect in a country where you can't even enjoy the sport of shooting like us.

No offense to our British brothers intended.


Tostig
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Sorry buddy, provably wrong. I currently reside in England and I am a member of my university's rifle club. Shoots are on Sundays.

However, we only have bolt- or lever- action .22 match and hunting rifles to shoot with. No semiauto rifles with RIS, collapsible stocks, and Pmags, and no Glocks or Berettas (those can be rented and shot on designated ranges though). Meanwhile the high-magnification sniper scopes unavailable in a few states are freely purchaseable in England. Fact checking makes the world go round :)

In any case this is a knife forum...regarding those stab-proof knives, I think they are ceramic, which are pretty useless for any kind of combat but make for damned fine kitchen implements. I would actually applaud them as a rather sensible invention, since the last I checked most knife crimes are attempted or committed with cheap knives freely available.

In fact, since this is somewhat relevant, I want to take a minute defending British knife laws. They are in my opinion restrictive but very, very sensible. Originally a Canadian, another country frequently ridiculed by those down south for its strict weapons laws, I've given British knife laws a good read while considering a Buck Bantam for EDC.

Knives of all kinds, right up to hand-forged Japanese blades, can be freely purchased over the internet by anyone over the age of 18. That is sensible. Teenagers still in high school, many of them too dumb for their own good (exhibit A: youtube) and frequently not careful enough to look up laws etc. should be kept away from things that make them a hazard to themselves and those around them. Same reason we have a minimum age for driving.

Fixed blade knives and locking knives are legal to buy but are not legal to be carried in public, unless the accused can provide good reason. This is also sensible. If you have a $800 collection of high-quality Kershaw knives you are unlikely to need to take them around town. The "good reason" part covers mechanics who might need a multitool or butchers carrying their cleavers to work--protecting honest citizens while nabbing drunken idiots who might carry a folder into a nightclub. If you look up past court rulings you'll see very few cases where The Man screwed over an upstanding citizen.

Was I slightly peeved to hear that I can't carry a Buck Bantam everywhere I go? Yes. But frankly, I'm a university student, what the hell do I need it for? I ended up buying a Victorinox Classic, which has the small knife I need and more. Everybody's happy.
 
Skytorn said:
In fact, since this is somewhat relevant, I want to take a minute defending British knife laws. They are in my opinion restrictive but very, very sensible. Originally a Canadian, another country frequently ridiculed by those down south for its strict weapons laws, I've given British knife laws a good read while considering a Buck Bantam for EDC.


Fixed blade knives and locking knives are legal to buy but are not legal to be carried in public, unless the accused can provide good reason. This is also sensible. Was I slightly peeved to hear that I can't carry a Buck Bantam everywhere I go? Yes. But frankly, I'm a university student, what the hell do I need it for? I ended up buying a Victorinox Classic, which has the small knife I need and more. Everybody's happy.
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Not sensible laws by any means.
They do not prevent crime; they are merely another way for the authorities to appear like they are doing something meaningful while doing nothing of substance.
I can carry my Strider SmF or titanium Military to university here in jolly old Canada, and everyone is perfectly safe. What the hell do I need it for? Well guess what bub, as YOU are the one questioning MY rights, the onus is on YOU to prevent a convincing argument. Thus far, you have not done so(nor have any of the others in favour of increasingly restrictive laws).
 
Way to go, derailing a thread, dragging it over the line.
Any more politicking and I will close it.
 
Way to go, derailing a thread, dragging it over the line.
Any more politicking and I will close it.
 
symphonyincminor said:
He's referencing a policy in the UK, home of the:

article005579bdc000005d.jpg


Non-Stabbing Kitchen Knife :D

But back to the whiney YouTube video: it's all tongue-in-cheek. Check out his other videos. Poorly done... but still satire.
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Wonder how long before some crafty crook ends up killing someone with that and they start to ban all kitchen utensils with a blade, except for a butterknife?
 
Skytorn said:
Sorry buddy, provably wrong. I currently reside in England and I am a member of my university's rifle club. Shoots are on Sundays.

However, we only have bolt- or lever- action .22 match and hunting rifles to shoot with. No semiauto rifles with RIS, collapsible stocks, and Pmags, and no Glocks or Berettas (those can be rented and shot on designated ranges though). Meanwhile the high-magnification sniper scopes unavailable in a few states are freely purchaseable in England. Fact checking makes the world go round :)

In any case this is a knife forum...regarding those stab-proof knives, I think they are ceramic, which are pretty useless for any kind of combat but make for damned fine kitchen implements. I would actually applaud them as a rather sensible invention, since the last I checked most knife crimes are attempted or committed with cheap knives freely available.

In fact, since this is somewhat relevant, I want to take a minute defending British knife laws. They are in my opinion restrictive but very, very sensible. Originally a Canadian, another country frequently ridiculed by those down south for its strict weapons laws, I've given British knife laws a good read while considering a Buck Bantam for EDC.

Knives of all kinds, right up to hand-forged Japanese blades, can be freely purchased over the internet by anyone over the age of 18. That is sensible. Teenagers still in high school, many of them too dumb for their own good (exhibit A: youtube) and frequently not careful enough to look up laws etc. should be kept away from things that make them a hazard to themselves and those around them. Same reason we have a minimum age for driving.

Fixed blade knives and locking knives are legal to buy but are not legal to be carried in public, unless the accused can provide good reason. This is also sensible. If you have a $800 collection of high-quality Kershaw knives you are unlikely to need to take them around town. The "good reason" part covers mechanics who might need a multitool or butchers carrying their cleavers to work--protecting honest citizens while nabbing drunken idiots who might carry a folder into a nightclub. If you look up past court rulings you'll see very few cases where The Man screwed over an upstanding citizen.

Was I slightly peeved to hear that I can't carry a Buck Bantam everywhere I go? Yes. But frankly, I'm a university student, what the hell do I need it for? I ended up buying a Victorinox Classic, which has the small knife I need and more. Everybody's happy.
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I would just like to point out that an attitude like yours is the reason why you have such idiotic knife laws. As far as teenagers, I will agree alot of them are too dumb for what you perceive to be dangerous things but the idea that its best to just keep every teenager away from those things is pretty much as idiotic as your knife laws. Got a better idea for you, how about teaching those teenagers how to use those things properly and to show some common sence and restraint. Seriously dont you find it the least bit disturbing that your government told you go out and buy new knives cause we decided to ban your kitchen knives to protect you? I cannot begin to understand how that makes any sence? If someone wanted to hurt you with one of your new fancy euro neutered safety knifes can't they just cut you, that is unless your not allowed a sharp kitchen knife now, or will they just beat you with a frying pan, you ready for them to tell you you can't use pots and pans now to? You said it was reasonable. As far as looking up rulings, just look up whatever ruling involved with your kitchen knife ban or whatever you call it, you'll find one where the man pretty much screwed every citizen.
Enjoy your Swiss Army Knife, I am enjoying my Spyderco.
 
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