serrations on combat/military knives

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I prefer plain edge, carried a plain edge knife while I was active duty, I have owned combo edged knives and I just don't have a need for them, As long as you know how to sharpen a knife and you keep it sharp there is no need for serrations IMO. A plain edge knife can do anything a serrated edge knife can do as long as it's sharp, but a serrated knife is only better in certain situations, like cutting rope.
 
A dull plain edge will only squash a ripe tomato; a dull serrated blade will slice through a ripe tomato.
 
Alnamvet68 said:
A dull plain edge will only squash a ripe tomato; a dull serrated blade will slice through a ripe tomato.
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Allen R. said it best, if you have a dull plain edge, then you should probably acquire a CE so you don't have any difficulty slicing tomatoes.
 
Allen R. said:
I never once sliced a tomato when I was active duty...
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Most rear echelon types never will....they have their brother's in arms in the mess tent slice 'em for them. That said, what does slicing or not slicing tomatos while on active duty have anything to do with this thread?
 
P_Meticulous said:
Allen R. said it best, if you have a dull plain edge, then you should probably acquire a CE so you don't have any difficulty slicing tomatoes.
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Which reminds me, looking at your "meticulous" collection, not a single knife shows any use. Do you buy knives just to collect and look at?
 
Alnamvet68 said:
Most rear echelon types never will....they have their brother's in arms in the mess tent slice 'em for them. That said, what does slicing or not slicing tomatos while on active duty have anything to do with this thread?
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Read the title of the thread, the Op asked about serrations on a combat /military knife , which implies it will be used in combat or in military service, I was offering my opinion. What does trolling myself and another member haft to do with this thread?
 
Alnamvet68 said:
Which reminds me, looking at your "meticulous" collection, not a single knife shows any use. Do you buy knives just to collect and look at?
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Don't get your undies in a twist :rolleyes:

I just got into collecting once I joined the main BM forum.
Considering that I acquired my 810 in Dec, 710-3 in Jan, Mini-Grip M4 in March, (4) 940-121's (gave one to my Dad for F. Day), and two 530's last month -- how much use/wear do you expect?? I'm a Police Officer not a lumber jack :D What do you think we do everyday? Fight off gang-bangers with knives lol.. I took pics of my *collection* - do you think 15+ years of buying knives/beaters (before I knew what a good knife looked like) is that small of a collection?

I sold off a ton of beaters at a garage sale last year, but I'd be more than happy to send you a pic of my BM beaters so you can stop whining!

It seemed like most people just talk about knives, kinda why I posted a "use" thread the other day lol now keep trying to troll me friend-o
 
Alnamvet68 said:
A dull plain edge will only squash a ripe tomato; a dull serrated blade will slice through a ripe tomato.
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Which is why one should learn how to keep a plain edge sharp. Ever heard of a diafold? I keep a fine/ultra fine in my left hip pocket all the time. My edc Leatherman Charge also has a medium diamond hone. Last night a woman I work with handed me a knife and a pair of scissors from her tool box. I knew what she wanted. I gave them both back to her 10 minutes later telling her to be very careful rabbit, they are sharp. She tested them and gave me the bug-eyed look, told me they'd never been so sharp. ;-)

Everyone I work with, and a lot of others, know I am a knife nut. They also know I will sharpen anyone's knives for just the asking. Where I work there is absolutely no reason for anyone who knows me to have a dull knife or scissors. At least once a day someone hands me a knife to sharpen. If someone hands me a serrated knife, I give it back to them unsharpened. "I don't hone serrated knives, sorry."
 
cbxer55 said:
Who's a troll? ;-(

I like the "bend and snap", btw. ;-)
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1. Troll
One who purposely and deliberately (that purpose usually being self-amusement) starts an argument in a manner which attacks others on a forum without in any way listening to the arguments proposed by his or her peers. He will spark of such an argument via the use of ad hominem attacks (i.e. 'you're nothing but a fanboy' is a popular phrase) with no substance or relevence to back them up as well as straw man arguments, which he uses to simply avoid addressing the essence of the issue.
 
P_Meticulous said:
Correct ;) Meant towards Alnamvet68

Who logged off once someone called him out!
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Thought so, just making sure. I've been called worse before, right on these here forums. I mean, I have infractions against me for being an asshat. Too many more and I might get banned. Got to watch what I say. ;-)
 
goodeyesniper said:
because most military are just as clueless about knives as the average guy who buys a s&w knife from big five...

serrations really shine in one area, cutting while dull. and if there's one thing that people are good at, it's carrying dull knives.

that, plus marketing, means combo edges are king in the military world.

there's nothing inherently wrong with combo edges, they have their uses. but how they are marketed often leads to people without a clue purchasing them.
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This.

Most of the folks I deploy with actually have no idea how to sharpen a knife. Serrations, in that respect, are great since, as most folks have said, can cut with minimal maintanance. Personally, I like a plain edge for sharpening and use but I can work with serrated as well.

Torlagh said:
If I am not terribly mistaken, the Geneva Convention says that knives with a serrated edge are not to be used. Personally, if I was captured and became a POW, I wouldn't want to bet on being able to explain that my knife was not meant to be used on people, and having my captors believe me. It could potentially lead to your being treated much worse, even to the point of being declared a war criminal. I personally never had a problem cutting whatever I needed to with a plain edge.
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I believe you are thinking of the Hague Convention, but no, there is no specific mention to serrated knives.
 
Torlagh & Desmosthenes. Serrations apparently are NOT against the Geneva Convention. The current USMC bayonet has serrations on the cutting edge and the US Army's M9 bayonet has serrations on the spine, and you can rest assured that those services Legal sections checked to make sure they were legal. The M9 went thru so many changes to the serrations as required by JAG (Judge Advocate Corps) that the serrations are about useless. In WWI, some German bayonets for their Pioneers (Engineers) had aggressive saw backs on the spine and the urban legend is that if captured by Allied soldiers, those men carrying saw back bayonets would be shot. I do not see why having serrations on the edge or back would matter any way. You are captured and you have serrations on the cutting edge so you are good to go, but the next man has serrations on the spine and he is not good to go? John
 
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