SH I or II

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firefive

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Sorry for the poor picture but is this a SH I or II. From the pictures on bad mojo it appears to be a SH I due to the bird beak pommel ? Also were all the SH I's ATS 34. Any assistance with this question would be greatly appreciated.


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Thanks in advance
 
I couldn't view the first picture, It gave me a statement "You don't have permission to access". The second is a series of pictures, but the last two are of the knife I think you are asking about. It looks like a SHII, but I would need a better picture. The one picture including the sheaths is too small to see detail and the other needs to show the whole blade. The early SHIIs had birds beak ends also.

Look at the attached picture, the fifth picture from the top is a SHI and the next one down is a SHII, see how the SHI is shorter and wider, hope this helps a little.
 
i can't view your pics. the history of the sh is rather confusing to me i'm afraid but to my understanding there was the original sh made of ats-34, the sh1 also made of ats-34 but smaller, and the sh II made of A2 that had a blade lenght of 7 7/8". of course since i unfortunately don't own one or two ;) i could be wrong
 
It does not appear to be a production Busse at all.

No front talon. That area looks "suspect".

The pommel looks wrong also, like it was ground out to birds-beak-like config. Actually, that area looks dimensionally "suspect" also.

It does have 3-hole scales, so that would put it in the SH-II lineage.

Don't know, to me, based on the pic, I would want to see more.

While it may have originated in Ohio, it may not be a Busse.
 
Are you asking about the one with the "orange" handle? If so I believe that is a knife made from the "blanks" that Jerry sold to Justin of Ranger knives. The other knife with it is the Swamp Rat Camp Tramp.

I hope that helps

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Sorry about the pictures I seem to be having trouble posting. I list the URL for the individual picture but the whole album comes up. The knife in question is currently listed on epray if you want to see more pictures. Were all the SH II A2, or were some INFI. AS for the orange handled knife it is an RD7 produced from Busse apprentice blanks. The knife posted on epray has"Busse" stamped on the spine.Let me know what you think.

Thanks

Gary
 
I think all of the BB SHIIs have A2 blades, some of the later SHIIs were made of INFI.
 
Thanks for the information Randucci.

Eric you are correct the RD7 and CT are mine. For some reason I cant get the steelheart image to come up.

Thanks
 
Sorry man, I thought that was something someone was trying to sell you as a Busse.

I thought that may have been one of the Ranger blades.
 
Thank goodness it's not mine (yet?) All hooves accounted for. I was just wondering what make of SH it was, and whether it would be infi or not.
 
SH2 and it's made of A2 steel.
Like the second one from the left.

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So what would be a fair market value for a non infi SH. And how tough is this pre infi steel in such a large knife?


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As to the toughness of A2, that knife carries the same warranty as the INFI knives, and is a very highly regarded steel for toughness. I couldn't say from personal experience, as I haven't actually used mine. :D

As to FMV - You would definitely be in the rarified collector class here if it were pristine. I would think FMV is well south of a pristine SH I, which have gone in the past couple of years for between $750 and $850. I got lucky on my SH II, bought it new from Busse about a hundred years ago.

Since it is on E-Bay, we are going to find out what the FMV is to at least one person.
 
Permit me to amend my previous post. Auctions don't always determine FMV. I would always advise someone that if they want an item, then bid what they are willing to pay for it, even if that is below the reserve price. You never know what might happen.
 
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