Sharpening S110V and 10V

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Scope2x

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I have a KME with Diamond stones. Any recommended angle for the 10V and S110V? What grit should I take each up to? Any help is appreciated.
 
I like 12-15dps, burred no higher then 3k with a 1 micron comp on leather.

for long lasting, edges I like a burr on Diamond at 3-400 grit, deburr on white ceramic, with a 1 mic strop, very toothy and aggressive but not a lot of precision or finesse

for more precision, I like a 3k burr with mirror polish and a 1 mic strop maybe even a .5 and .25 strop, very, very sharp but doesn't hold up well on cardboard or overall working edge endurance.

if you experience chipping, increase edge angle to a max of 20 dps or change you cutting techniques or what your using it on.
if chipping at 20 dps then you could be using the wrong tool for the job.

any thicker then 20 dps has a significant drop in actual cutting performance on a pocket knife in my experience.
 
I've recently been sharpening everything with a 17 degree dps and adding a small 20 degree micro bevel and have found I'm getting great performance and great edge retention out of everything I sharpen.
 
I not a big fan of micro bevels because it makes the geometry thicker at the apex and reduces the cutting performance, I think the hidden reason why most of us use them is that it removes one to the most difficult techniques and skills in sharpening, burr removal.

if you just cut the burr off at a higher angle it certainly makes life easy, But I don't use them unless I have too
 
what model are they? i presume it would help to know the geometry of the blade.

for s110v more toothy edge is better than mirror polish, so i would suggest somewhere around 400-600grit give or take... a few people were having issues with sharpening s110v, not sure why.

because s110v can be chippy you dont want to go too far of an angle.
 
Scope2x said:
They are both Big Chris. Don't know what angles they come from him at.
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if they are Big Chris knives, it would be a great idea to get some of his input directly, it could be very helpful as he's probably sharpened and tested several of them.
 
Mo2 said:
what model are they? i presume it would help to know the geometry of the blade.

for s110v more toothy edge is better than mirror polish, so i would suggest somewhere around 400-600grit give or take... a few people were having issues with sharpening s110v, not sure why.

because s110v can be chippy you dont want to go too far of an angle.
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When you say too get far angle. Do you mean like >15 or <15?
 
DeadboxHero said:
I not a big fan of micro bevels because it makes the geometry thicker at the apex and reduces the cutting performance, I think the hidden reason why most of us use them is that it removes one to the most difficult techniques and skills in sharpening, burr removal.

if you just cut the burr off at a higher angle it certainly makes life easy, But I don't use them unless I have too
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This is essentially what I do and what I was referring to. Sharpen to 17dps, move out to 20, hit each side a few times with a 600, give it a few strop passes and call it a day. Haven't seen any decrease in cutting performance, but have seen an increase in edge retention.
 
Scope2x said:
They are both Big Chris. Don't know what angles they come from him at.
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It all depends on what Big Chris knife you have. How thick is the blade stock? I've got a couple of his knives with super thin 10V and I don't have any issues using a ceramic rod and leather strop to keep the edge. The thin stock is about 12 DPS, if it's thicker, 12 to 15 DPS. The 10V is fairly easy to maintain a sharp edge.
His S110V angle runs about 15 DPS, for that you'll need a diamond stone. I think he runs the S110V around 62HRC which makes it a little more time to get the sharp edge back. Also look on his sales thread of the knives you bought and see how much steel he leaves behind the edge.
 
Ajack60 said:
It all depends on what Big Chris knife you have. How thick is the blade stock? I've got a couple of his knives with super thin 10V and I don't have any issues using a ceramic rod and leather strop to keep the edge. The thin stock is about 12 DPS, if it's thicker, 12 to 15 DPS. The 10V is fairly easy to maintain a sharp edge.
His S110V angle runs about 15 DPS, for that you'll need a diamond stone. I think he runs the S110V around 62HRC which makes it a little more time to get the sharp edge back. Also look on his sales thread of the knives you bought and see how much steel he leaves behind the edge.
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One is his super think 10V stock at .065. The other is in S110V and pretty thick stock. It was never posted for sale so I dont know the exact stock thickness it was his EDC knife. But i confirmed with Big Chris both are about 15 DPS.

"I hand sharpen them to roughly 15 per side. The 10V can go lower if you want. I have used it at 10 per side. The S110V doesn't really like lower angles too much, but will hold up fine at 30 inclusive."
 
I have two big Chris .065" knives. Ceramic rods are fine to maintain the edge. The best thing about the thin 10v seems to be it doesn't need sharpening very often. The thin blades seem to stay sharp and slice really well. Also, big Chris knows his stuff so his knives are pretty awesome.
 
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