sharpness missing.

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cool_ion

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I have a Seal2000 which I used frequently in the fields.
It was "sharpened" by one of my bunk mates once and , god, it's not sharp anymore.

I try to resharpen it but all in vain.

can anyone help me?
 
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New Pig Hunter

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Last night I used my "Smith's plastic thingie and a mousepad/leather strop w/ micro-fine honing compound" method....

within 5 minutes I had an old old OLD Camillus "kabar style" fighting knife deforesting my forearm !!!

same method I use on my SEAL 2000. I don't sweat getting the serrations super-sharp, but I do strop 'em anyway. But the other part of the blade is razor sharp !!

here ya go:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=379087

Cheers,

Carl
 
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Nemo1966

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Im very new to the World of SOG and have just purchased 3 knives :thumbup: although my wife would give it a big :thumbdn:

I have a Desert Dagger, Trident S2 and a Flash 2 (non serrated).

Problem: I have been looking at shapening them. I would like just a general "good" usable sharpness, like removing hairs from arm sharpness.

However I find that all the leather straps... etc you guys talk about are not available in the UK.

Can anyone recommend a simple but good system that would be available to myself? perhaps availble on Ebay, as most US people will ship to the UK on Ebay.

thanks
Nemo

what about this http://www.axminster.co.uk/products/Leather-Razor-Strop-23490.html

and one of these?
http://www.axminster.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=20452

but which one?

thanks
 
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I made my own leather "strop".

I saw a thread somewhere in BF: a fellow glued a piece of leather onto a spongy mousepad, so I did that for myself. My finished size is 9 inches long, 4 inches wide. The leather "fuzzy side" is up.

I duct-tape it securely to my workbench, this puts it just above waist-level when I stand there. I then very liberally rub in the (green in color) micro-fine honing compound. I hold the knife handle very firmly in both hands and wail away on the strop. I apply more green stuff and wail away some more.

Great exercise and very soon the edge removes hair from arm.

Everybody has a favorite system or tool that does the job for them..... the above works great for me.

Cheers,

Carl
 
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Nemo1966

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Hi Carl, :thumbup:

when you say "wail away" do you have to hold the knife at the angle of the actual sharp edge, or doesnt it really matter much?

Sorry for the silly questions... I just don't want to ruin my new knives :)

thanks for the reply m8

Mind you getting hold of the "(green in color) micro-fine honing compound." isnt going to be easy in the UK. None on ebay
 
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Long ago "somebody somewhere" at BF advised me to hold a "much steeper" angle when stropping.
If for example you hold a 20-degree angle when sharpening, then you go "far beyond" that for stropping.
Considering that I'm not at all paying attention to stropping angle, I'd "advise" 40-degrees for the above example. I'm just wailing away......

Considering the amount of steel "removed" with 0.5 micron green stuff, I reckon ya can't hardly make a mistake. I recall "someone" saying the green stuff does more polishing than metal removing, and that polished edge becomes incredibly sharp without losing the desired angle.
If ya do make a mistake, and I for-sure don't know how you'd know you made a mistake, then you simply re-sharpen and try stropping again.
What I've experienced: the edge simply gets sharper and sharper the more I wail away. If for some reason I'm not happy, I take the knife back to the $5 plastic thingie and pull it through more, then re-strop.

As for the green stuff: I use this product and lots of it, scrubbing it into the leather:
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?page=32984
I'm certain you can find it, or it's equivalent, there in the UK. Somebody has it, as in all things ya just need to know what to call it.

Please keep us updated on how things go !!

Cheers,

Carl

p.s. BE CAREFUL !! you'll easily go into analysis paralysis on the topic of sharpening !!! Besides killing your pocketbook.....

p.p.s. lotsa good info !!
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&cat=1&p=43072

ppps. this will drive you crazy !!!
http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/...de=toolstore&nextpage=/extra/lappingfilm.html

pppps. and more !!
http://www.antiquetools.com/sharp/sharpstropping.html

ppppps. Enough Already !!??!!
 
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Lurp

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Get a Spyderco sharpmaker and you will have any knives hair popping in 10 minutes. Simple to use and comes with an instruction DVD. You can also get a leather strop to finish up the edge but its not needed.
 
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Nemo1966

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Nemo1966 said:
Hi Carl, :thumbup:

when you say "wail away" do you have to hold the knife at the angle of the actual sharp edge, or doesnt it really matter much?

Sorry for the silly questions... I just don't want to ruin my new knives :)

thanks for the reply m8

Mind you getting hold of the "(green in color) micro-fine honing compound." isnt going to be easy in the UK. None on ebay
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I still cant get any micro fine honing compound in the UK... anyone know anywhere??

BTW just to double check... got a piece of leather coming from VESS.... I stick the shiny side down to a mousemat or wood... leaving the fluffy side to sharpen the knife on????????

thanks
 
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there's gotta be somebody over there who uses the green stuff.... woodworkers, scissor sharpener shops, knife sharpener shops .... somebody's got to have it.

yes, fluffy side up, I was told it holds the green stuff better.

And I'd recommend a mousemat, not wood.

Cheers,

Carl
 
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