Shipping overseas

Buffalohump

Buffalohump

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I just wanted to ask why so many people here are opposed to shipping overseas?

I have no restrictions on knives in my country and have bought several high ticket knives in the past from people and dealers in the USA, with no problems whatsoever.

IF a knife was lost in the mail (hasn't happened yet) I would certainly not expect the seller to refund me. Its a chance that I - as the buyer - have to take. It is NOT the seller's responsibility IMO.

It is difficult to get Busse/Swamp Rat products - as you all know. I cannot go to shows. The Exchange is really the only option for guys like me.

We just want to stick our snouts in the trough and get a little INFI magic in our lives too. Our money is good, and I'm pretty sure most of us are honest, hardworking people, just like you. Well, I know I am.

Apart from anything else, by selling your American-made products overseas, you are bringing in valuable foreign income and boosting your own economy.

Just my 0.02c

Mark
 
Well i must say i have bought from different BF members now, most of em located in the US (im in the netherlands). And have sold/traded knives to folks in US, Japan, Australia and i must say it all worked out. I buy most of my gear from US online shops also.

I think if you can show that your a honest/correct person (even porkbay info ;-) and keep the other party up to date with shippinginfo, then dealing with them shouldnt be a problem.

However as always there is only 1 person needed to mess it up for the rest, your point on the no refund is valid but can always turn ugly.
 
Yup, bought about a dozen knives from good Hogs in the US over the last two months who have shipped to Switzerland. The Store has no trouble shipping overseas either. I can't understand it either. I have an idea though that some foreign (NON US) Hogs may ask people who ship to them to falsify the value of the merchandise so they won't have to pay duty at the full rate. This would be illegal of course and I have never and will never ask for such a thing. Buffalohump is right guys, give us some of the action at feeding time too ! We're trying to support the US economy in our own little piggy way :D We are a force, we smell just as bad as any Hogs anywhere and we demand a Ganzaa of our own....He he he :yawn::D
 
Buffalohump said:
I just wanted to ask why so many people here are opposed to shipping overseas?

I have no restrictions on knives in my country and have bought several high ticket knives in the past from people and dealers in the USA, with no problems whatsoever.

IF a knife was lost in the mail (hasn't happened yet) I would certainly not expect the seller to refund me. Its a chance that I - as the buyer - have to take. It is NOT the seller's responsibility IMO.

It is difficult to get Busse/Swamp Rat products - as you all know. I cannot go to shows. The Exchange is really the only option for guys like me.

We just want to stick our snouts in the trough and get a little INFI magic in our lives too. Our money is good, and I'm pretty sure most of us are honest, hardworking people, just like you. Well, I know I am.

Apart from anything else, by selling your American-made products overseas, you are bringing in valuable foreign income and boosting your own economy.

Just my 0.02c

Mark
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Mark- I don't think it is so much an issue of trust or a lack of desire to do commerce outside the USA, but a concern over the absence of recourse for the seller (in this case) when things go wrong. Aside from the additional shipping paperwork, there remains the uncertainty of foreign customs and third world shipping services. A friend in Zimbabwe has related to me the horror stories of their mail service. Its a miracle when something arrives and arrives intact.

By the way, your money is good. But it was better in the '80s when I used to get $1.25 for R1!

GB
 
I hear ya.... but please don't view us in the same light as Zimbabwe. It's a chalk and cheese comparison.

If something goes missing, its just the breaks. I'm just saying its never happened to me - so far. And I have brought out a bunch of stuff in the last year - and shipped stuff overseas.

I realise its an extra schlep, but it might well mean a sale where there might have been none.

Mark
 
Buffalohump said:
I hear ya.... but please don't view us in the same light as Zimbabwe. It's a chalk and cheese comparison.

Mark
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No comparison, just an example.

I spent several years on the continent and still have a fair amount of contact with friends there. It was very difficult to get anything American made over there during those years and I fully understand the frustration of trying to get some knives. Especially something as special as a Busse. I'm confident that this crew will find a way to make it work.

GB
 
I'll try and ship anywhere as long I have the money in hand before the knife ships. The big problem is when the buyer starts asking that you misrepresent values and content on the shipping documents.

I know of a case where the seller had to spend about four hours trying to get the d@m knife shipped! So as soon as a buyer asks me to do that I just won't deal with them.
 
Tony G said:
I'll try and ship anywhere as long I I have the money in hand before the knife ships. The big problem is when the buyer starts asking that you misrepresent values and content on the shipping documents.

I know of a case where the seller had to spend about four hours trying to get the d@m knife shipped! So as soon as a buyer asks me to do that I just won't deal with them.
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sums it up for me too.

ill ship anywhere, but usps wont insure many packages that leave the country once they hit foreign customs. there is inherent risk, but i haven't had anything go missing.

i imagine ill continue to ship anywhere until something goes horribly wrong.
 
Tony G said:
I'll try and ship anywhere as long I I have the money in hand before the knife ships. The big problem is when the buyer starts asking that you misrepresent values and content on the shipping documents.

I know of a case where the seller had to spend about four hours trying to get the d@m knife shipped! So as soon as a buyer asks me to do that I just won't deal with them.
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+1 ... maybe +2.

After all these years of guv'mint work, all I've got left is my integrity. And it ain't for sale.
 
I have some questions in regards to your post and the answers in it. How do you transfer funds? My understanding is paypal is not a good option for transactions from another country (I could be mis-informed). The reason I ask is that I sold one knife to Germany. It was a pain for me. No complaints as the buyer paid extra for the trouble and was a great guy to deal with. The funds transaction was at Western Union which required me to find and drive to their office. The paperwork was much more difficult than shipping CONUS and the insurance was no good once it left the US. The max the USPS would insure for was $500 on a $800 knife. It arrived fine but it was much more difficult and time consuming transaction.
This is not a whine post nor is it intended to irritate anyone. Its more about asking some of the more experienced people how they go about it. I might reconsider if there is a easier way. I think that most people new to shipping out of the US are worried about the process and the outcome.
 
I personally have had good deals with folks shipping TO ME from New Zealand and Australia - cool US Customs stamps on the boxes of INFI! :D

I have also SOLD TO folks in Canada, The Netherlands, Italy and I believe Croatia. Perhaps a couple others... getting feeble minded these days... :D

I remember using Paypal for a deal from Croatia, and I tried to refund a few dollars in a shipping over-estimate - couldn't send the funds BACK to the buyer, but received them in US Dollars, no problem. :thumbup:

BUT - I think we all remember the fiasco with a certain shipment (not mine) of INFI to the UK that went bonkers... :rolleyes::foot:

I usually list US48 on my sales as a matter of Shipping COSTS included in my price - not as a general exclusion for foriegn sales...

If I have something for sale that interests you - please let me know, I'm happy to ship INFI around the globe, as long as it's all up front, as I'm sure it would be with you, Buffalohump. :D :thumbup:


Best regards,

John


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I've shipped abroad several times.

Like others state, I have to be able to list the full value of the knife for insurance.

I also must be able to send via an option that allows for tracking to the site of delivery.

If the buyer will pay for those options up front, I have no problem selling overseas.

I don't mind listing a knife as a "camping tool" if that helps it get through customs without being confiscated. A knife IS *the number one* camping tool in my book. Camping tool is just a larger category as far as I'm concerned. However, I won't call the knife something way off-base on a customs form.

I still list "Lower 48 Only" in my sale threads though. It just keeps life simpler.
 
One other thing I thought of...

Also important to remember is that PayPal takes a slightly larger cut when it's an international payment. That was my experience at least.
 
I regularly buy and sell knives,every knife i have bought was via paypal and all but two i have sold were funded through paypal,no problems ever.I have shipped to Australia,Canada,U.S.A and Russia,so far never a problem either.I have missed out on some great knives because people would not ship outside conus or accept paypal( i would have snapped up Cobalts 1 of 300 SHBM Jungle assault in the first minute of listing if not for this,congrats to Tony.G),but have probably saved a lot of money too.However more and more are willing to all the time and i am sure that there will be plenty of Infi to go round soon :)....come on Ganzaaa!!
 
I have had several very positive dealings with a number of HOGs from the USA(and other countries abroad). I found that generally as long as you abide by all the laws and agree to take responsibility for lost shipments up front things will travel very smoothly and you are soon the proud papa (or mama) of some stunning INFI!

I am thankful for all the HOGs that are prepared to go to the trouble of doing the paperwork and calculations involved with international shipping and hope that it continues so that we can bridge the geographical distances that separate our common love of INFI!

Cheers,
Venom
 
i willl not buy from anyone who will not ship to APO or BPO period ..thats our troops stationed over seas and anyone who wont take a few extra minutes for our troops dont deserve my money ..

i was stationed overseas for 7 years and got dam tired of hearing sorry we dont ship APO ..
but in the same breath say they support our troops ..
 
I have a package that just left for Norway, no issue here if the buyer is agreeable to the terms of the sale.

Greg
 
While I cannot compare S.Africa to New Zealand, I, and others, really have no way of knowing what routes are taken to get to the destination country and how it will be handled when it gets there.
 
I've shipped to Italy, Thailand, Australia, Japan and Germany. It's a bit of extra hassle with the additional paperwork. My issue comes in with the misrepresentation of both item and value that is so often requested in an attempt to avoid Customs charges.

Shipping in conus is like going to the corner store. Shipping abroad is like parking at the mall, dealing the crowds and traffic, then winding my way through to the specialty store. I've done, and will continue to do, the latter but greatly prefer the former.
 
Once I lurnd how, I've been welcome to do so. Even purchased steals-of-deals for out-of-country folk and then shipped it to them.

Only USPS trouble I've had is an APO shipment that is STILL MIA. :(
 
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