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Ruggdogg87
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Not sure they do spa treatments. And yes. Even warranty work is hard and time consuming due to the maker being in Russia. I have heard it can take several months. Not sure if that is helpful.
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Call Recon1 out in LA...they are the sole US distributor and I think it all goes thru them
Let me know if this helped!
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Well now I don't plan on using this for more then pocket jewelry. Thanks for all the comments this helped. I just purchased a Custom shiro Neon but that might be my last one . I like knowing I can use the knife and if need send it to the maker and have it worked on.
Also I want to say Jon Ulkman from Ebosshoss was one of the most pleasant people I have had the pleasure of doing business with. He def will be having more of my business .
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Also I want to say Jon Ulkman from Ebosshoss was one of the most pleasant people I have had the pleasure of doing business with. He def will be having more of my business .
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Is there any production or mid-tech companies other than Chris Reeve that offers a free "Spa Treatment" ?
Or any that does it for a fee for that matter ?
I'm sure they're out there, but I can't think of any. It would be a good thing to know before buying.
Not talking about full blown Customs.
Or any that does it for a fee for that matter ?
I'm sure they're out there, but I can't think of any. It would be a good thing to know before buying.
Not talking about full blown Customs.
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Yea I have a couple Curtiss knives and it's nice knowing I can use them and if they get beat up I can send them in to get fixed up for free. When you spend all the money on full custom knives I think that should be a no cost benefit for them. But I am also not a knife maker so maybe that might not be fair to ask.
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A little late to the party on this post, but I thought I would share some info that I got from Shirogorov regarding spa treatment:
Yes, you can send in your knife for a touch up. The price would depend on what exactly needs to be done to it (hard to tell without one of our specialists taking a look at the actual knife). The detent can be looked at, as well.
For sending your knife in to us, please use the following address:
Recipient: Nasyrov Nikita Nakypovich
Street: Ul. Sverdlova, 87/12-23
City: Yaroslavl
Country: Russia
Zip code: 150054
Please include a paper in the package with the exact description of the problem, your full return address (including zip code and country), and what would you like us to write on the return shipment form (item name and declared value).
Note that the shipping risk is entirely on the original sender, unfortunately, should anything happen to the knife in transit (getting damaged or misplaced), the Shirogorov workshop cannot be held liable.
Out of personal experience, knives getting lost does not happen often, but it does happen sometimes. Out of ca. 20 or so knives that I have both sent and received to/from the US all have gotten through. But I do know of knife collectors that have had knives disappear in transit (though we are talking about guys with hundreds of knives in their collections). Regarding customs forms it's entirely up to the sender to decide on which value to declare and what to write in the field 'item declaration'. If you write 'knife', chances are, the item will get impounded for a month by the Russian customs, then sent back to the original sender (i.e. back to you). As officially, you are not allowed to send knives to Russia (but you can buy them freely in any knife, hunting, tactical or general convenience store...go figure). I personally used to write 'camping tool' and declare some small value of USD 90, or USD 120 (even for customs which cost 1k), to keep it 'under the radar'. When packaging the knife, I made sure I didn't pack it into anything flashy which would draw attention, made sure the knife box was covered and couldn't be seen from the outside (just wrapped an A4 sheet around the Shiro box), used bubble wrap, and copious amounts of tape (when you think you have too much, add some more). The idea is that a package that does not look especially pretty, is taped over 3 times so that opening it without anyone noticing will be impossible, and that has a lower-ish declared value is a lot less likely to draw attention than a non-taped box which says 'iPhone 6' on it. But that is my personal experience, how you decide to proceed is entirely up to you. I just shared the way that worked for me, there may be others, just as efficient.
Regards,
Tom
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Yes, you can send in your knife for a touch up. The price would depend on what exactly needs to be done to it (hard to tell without one of our specialists taking a look at the actual knife). The detent can be looked at, as well.
For sending your knife in to us, please use the following address:
Recipient: Nasyrov Nikita Nakypovich
Street: Ul. Sverdlova, 87/12-23
City: Yaroslavl
Country: Russia
Zip code: 150054
Please include a paper in the package with the exact description of the problem, your full return address (including zip code and country), and what would you like us to write on the return shipment form (item name and declared value).
Note that the shipping risk is entirely on the original sender, unfortunately, should anything happen to the knife in transit (getting damaged or misplaced), the Shirogorov workshop cannot be held liable.
Out of personal experience, knives getting lost does not happen often, but it does happen sometimes. Out of ca. 20 or so knives that I have both sent and received to/from the US all have gotten through. But I do know of knife collectors that have had knives disappear in transit (though we are talking about guys with hundreds of knives in their collections). Regarding customs forms it's entirely up to the sender to decide on which value to declare and what to write in the field 'item declaration'. If you write 'knife', chances are, the item will get impounded for a month by the Russian customs, then sent back to the original sender (i.e. back to you). As officially, you are not allowed to send knives to Russia (but you can buy them freely in any knife, hunting, tactical or general convenience store...go figure). I personally used to write 'camping tool' and declare some small value of USD 90, or USD 120 (even for customs which cost 1k), to keep it 'under the radar'. When packaging the knife, I made sure I didn't pack it into anything flashy which would draw attention, made sure the knife box was covered and couldn't be seen from the outside (just wrapped an A4 sheet around the Shiro box), used bubble wrap, and copious amounts of tape (when you think you have too much, add some more). The idea is that a package that does not look especially pretty, is taped over 3 times so that opening it without anyone noticing will be impossible, and that has a lower-ish declared value is a lot less likely to draw attention than a non-taped box which says 'iPhone 6' on it. But that is my personal experience, how you decide to proceed is entirely up to you. I just shared the way that worked for me, there may be others, just as efficient.
Regards,
Tom
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Shiro's without bearings are not especially hard to take apart, clean, lube and reassemble and tune yourself. I did my hati a few times. Bearings ones can be a little finicky if the bearings are not caged. I do not know as I haven't taken my bearing f95 apart. Just be careful and don't lose them and it shouldn't be bad.
Don't use a screwdriver though. Make yourself a tool that fits the screw (2 of them, I made them out of flat bits) and angle them so they put pressure in the base of the slot and not the top so you don't muck them up. A touch of vc3 thread locker (it's removable easier than blue locktite) when I set pivot tension and good to go.
A penny works sometimes and won't Marr the screws but if they are from factory and have theadlocker, it might not be enough to break it loose.
Shiro's are right up there with sebenzas on simplicity.
Don't use a screwdriver though. Make yourself a tool that fits the screw (2 of them, I made them out of flat bits) and angle them so they put pressure in the base of the slot and not the top so you don't muck them up. A touch of vc3 thread locker (it's removable easier than blue locktite) when I set pivot tension and good to go.
A penny works sometimes and won't Marr the screws but if they are from factory and have theadlocker, it might not be enough to break it loose.
Shiro's are right up there with sebenzas on simplicity.
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I agree with Mtneer. Cleaning is easy, any competent sharpener can sharpen the blade.
If something was to break its simpler to replace vs service. I think that at least some parts would be available through a distributor. I've heard of Shiro selling screwes, washers and ball bearings if contacted directly. I would not send my knife to Russia just for service - to risky. Lockbar insert would be the most likely part for replacement.
I would not have a problem sending a knife to Japan like a Rockstead - which can only be sharpened by them and think its worth it. Long roundtrip and costly shipping, but thats part of owning a knife from them. My 2 Rocksteads are in the EDC rotation
So, the point is - just use the knife everyday. Not much you can do to mess it up or brake it.
If something was to break its simpler to replace vs service. I think that at least some parts would be available through a distributor. I've heard of Shiro selling screwes, washers and ball bearings if contacted directly. I would not send my knife to Russia just for service - to risky. Lockbar insert would be the most likely part for replacement.
I would not have a problem sending a knife to Japan like a Rockstead - which can only be sharpened by them and think its worth it. Long roundtrip and costly shipping, but thats part of owning a knife from them. My 2 Rocksteads are in the EDC rotation
So, the point is - just use the knife everyday. Not much you can do to mess it up or brake it.
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Even with the bearings, a basic cleaning and lube is a breeze. Just be sure to have a cloth down to catch any bearings that come loose.
Here are some shots of my favorite "man jewelry"
Even though I haven't had my Shiros apart, I have to agree that dis- and re-assembly would be a breeze. One of the things I love about my now-two Shiros is the simplicity of their design. I would be far less worried about doing basic maintenance and minor repair on my knives than I would about sending them back to Russia and hoping they find their way back to me. I bought my 111 new from a solid, experienced Russian seller here who was communicative, reassuring, and provided tracking. He shipped when promised and it took about 10 days to arrive (exceptionally good), but I found the whole process nerve-wracking for my gentle psyche.
Mtneer helped get me into Shiros and sold me the knife in the quoted picture--it's quite cool to find it knocked down here. His pictures are insightful for anyone taking apart a Shiro. Dmitry13 's posts have numerous pics of Shiros in various states of disassembly and should prove helpful if you're contemplating working on your knife.
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Can't help but post a little knife porn while I'm at it. Here's a "My Two Bears" from my Pics of Pairs--Large and Small Versions of the Same Model thread.
This and more pics are at page 9, posts 171 & 173.
This and more pics are at page 9, posts 171 & 173.
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Hi,
I have a few Shirogorov's and I also got the pen/tool - which Recon 1 sells. I've ground screwdrivers to fit the slot's too. Either way works.
The pivot bolt is a bitch to loosen. It has thread-locker from the factory. It is best to heat it up with a heat gun or soldering iron to break the bond.
Some models have loose bearings that can fly everywhere if your not careful. The bearings are tiny, so they are easily lost. I always dissemble on a towel, so the bearings don't roll away.
Other than that, the knives are well made and fit back together easily and need very little lube and adjustment to make perfect.
I have a few Shirogorov's and I also got the pen/tool - which Recon 1 sells. I've ground screwdrivers to fit the slot's too. Either way works.
The pivot bolt is a bitch to loosen. It has thread-locker from the factory. It is best to heat it up with a heat gun or soldering iron to break the bond.
Some models have loose bearings that can fly everywhere if your not careful. The bearings are tiny, so they are easily lost. I always dissemble on a towel, so the bearings don't roll away.
Other than that, the knives are well made and fit back together easily and need very little lube and adjustment to make perfect.