SHOT show info (slipjoint SNG, perforated Sebenza washers)

chanwahyaoh said:
Well, we know why slipjoint knives are made. But specifically what is the point of spending money on a tough-as-nails, heavy abuse knife if it does not lock?
It's like buying an armored car that doesn't have a bulletproof windshield.


That's what he was getting at...
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Personally I think that a rag-top (convertible) armored car would be a more suitable analogy.
 
Well its all about making money isnt it?
Strider wants to sell more knives, so they made a slipjoint. All they are doing is expanding their lineup which in turn makes Strider a viable option for those who didnt consider them before.

I totally agree that a overbuilt hard-use slippie isnt something im saving up for. But i'd like to see the new knife before i pass judgment on it.
 
oh yeah , and then we can question all the people who own 4 wheel drives who never go off road at all , and the people with corvettes who never make one pass around the track...or the hummers that the only time they leave the road is when they are on the lift having the tires rotated. People buy SUV's , and those POS have no sport and no utility.

I am sure that they will sell well regardless of your analogies.

If people will pay $300+ for a Case/Bose collab ( and they do ) , I am sure there are plenty who will buy a Strider slip joint. Sometimes it is not about what you need , its about what ya want.
 
A slip-joint SNG makes me more interested in the knife than ever. The handle design is perfectly safe without a lock, and I almost prefer a slip-joint in hard use, since you can't break the lock!:p
 
John T Wylie Jr said:
oh yeah , and then we can question all the people who own 4 wheel drives who never go off road at all , and the people with corvettes who never make one pass around the track...or the hummers that the only time they leave the road is when they are on the lift having the tires rotated. People buy SUV's , and those POS have no sport and no utility.

I am sure that they will sell well regardless of your analogies.

If people will pay $300+ for a Case/Bose collab ( and they do ) , I am sure there are plenty who will buy a Strider slip joint. Sometimes it is not about what you need , its about what ya want.
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Exactly my point! I thought Strider design was all about no-compromise functionality in the most hardcore situations imaginable, and never about addressing the concerns of greater market share in the civilian market.

It is all good...Just another example of how I am (again) wrong about stuff.

I hope they do sell well, and that the recipients have their expectations met!
 
no-compromise functionality in the most hardcore situations imaginable
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If the law dictates you can't have a knife with a lock and you want to carry a folder , slipjoint or friction folder are your only options. To some , a slipjoint might not be their ideal choice , but I am willing to bet , that our grandfathers and their grandfathers used slipjoints for some pretty hardcore stuff in their day. Probably more than most of us use our modern folders for.

Sometimes the market dictates the product , when it does , you gotta go with it. :)
 
Has anybody seen this knife and who could describe it for the rest of us? Or better yet, some pics for this thread?
 
had it in my hand , think of a SNG without the stop pins. When I saw it there , I knew something was different , but didn't give it a second look , looked like any other SnG. Until Josh told me to open it. It was interesting to watch folks open it , then go to release the lockbar , only to then realize there wasn't one. :)

If I recall the blade was S30v , as was the backspring. Other than the lack of stop pin ( what most errantly think of as dual thumbstuds ) , it looked just like a normal SNG. I can't recall though if the liners were Ti or stainless.

It opened smoothly , stopped in the 1/2" stop position with a medium click , and seated open with a nice firm snap.
 
John T Wylie Jr said:
had it in my hand , think of a SNG without the stop pins. When I saw it there , I knew something was different , but didn't give it a second look , looked like any other SnG. Until Josh told me to open it. It was interesting to watch folks open it , then go to release the lockbar , only to then realize there wasn't one. :)

If I recall the blade was S30v , as was the backspring. Other than the lack of stop pin ( what most errantly think of as dual thumbstuds ) , it looked just like a normal SNG. I can't recall though if the liners were Ti or stainless.

It opened smoothly , stopped in the 1/2" stop position with a medium click , and seated open with a nice firm snap.
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John, did you happen to gey any pics ? is the back spring exposed ?...can't wait to see the design, sounds interesting.

It's not my cup of tea (and i am a fan of strider's knives)...personally , i can't see the need for such a stout slippy...i do understand the marketing, bit i would wonder if it would fold if someone used it for a task not meant for a slippy.

On another note, I recently received one of my sebs back from CRK for a refurb. and it had the new perforated washers installed (less surface area=less friction). :)
 
bigmark408 said:
On another note, I recently received one of my sebs back from CRK for a refurb. and it had the new perforated washers installed (less surface area=less friction). :)
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Hmmmm......I have a small regular (BG-42) I've been thinking about sending back for a refurb. This might just get me off my butt and send it in.


Did the Spyderco Slipit knives get a similar reaction when they made their debut? I know I was skeptical about them until I picked up a UKPK. Now I like the idea and the knife.
 
Phillip Dobson said:
Less contact area does not mean less friction. The perforations should help hold lubricant and trap dirt, though.
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less contact area can mean less friction. equations showing that friction is independent of contact area are only approximations. in this application it probably doesn't matter at all since the coefficient of friction of the lubricated steel is several orders of magnitude less than that of any conventional type of washer.
 
uh yeah ............................ that.... huh ?

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