Shotgun?

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I am looking for a shotgun. It will be used mainly for clay pigeons, but should should also be usable for home defense. Thus, it should be a bit shorter than a pure clay shooting gun (I'm thinking between 42" and 46" overall length). I like the reliability of pump-action, but the convenience and reduced recoil of an auto-loader sounds tempting. Any thoughts or recommendations would be appreciated.
 
Why would an auto have reduced recoil? My Beretta semi is famous for how hard it kicks.

You can easily purchase a pump shotgun that either comes with 2 barrels for sporting and a separate one for HD/SD, or you can get a second barrel aftermarket.
 
I'm a handgun and rifle guy, I don't really have use for a shotgun. But, I have to admit. The new Franchi Affinity shoulders really freaking good. The LOP is a little shorter than normal so it shoulders a bit more like a rifle for me which is nice.
 
I have a Mossberg 930 SPX that has performed really well for me. It has about 1000 rounds of it, about 900 of those light/cheap bird shot, some 3in 00 Buckshot, and some 2.75 00 buckshot, besides the 3" everything else had very little kick, with the bird shot at least I can shoot it one handed holding it straight out in front of me, and you can empty all 8 shots pretty easily too. Might be worth a look. As far as Pump I'd say: Remington 870 (wingmaster or P), Mossberg 590, Benelli Supernova.
 
This may be hard for people to believe. The overall design of the Mossberg 500 is possibly the best pump action. Some individual guns may need to be taken to a good gunsmith for a tune up, but once tuned up properly they work great. For the money you can get two different barrels and a tune up and still be budget minded. You won't be the envy of all the shooters at the clay course, but it will work.
That being said. It a shotgun doesn't fit, don't buy it. You will not be happy with a shotgun that doesn't fit. Buy what fits, no matter how much it cost. Trust me on that one! If you buy the "one" the first time you save money in the long run.
 
Weatherby SA-08 is a great semi-auto. The PA-08 is nice too. Both are very affordable.

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How much sport shooting are you going to do? A lot of receivers won't hold up to several thousand rounds a year. Otherwise, the bargain buy is probably the Mossberg with 2 barrels.
 
I've got a Remington 870 Tactical pump action 12 guage - mostly for home defense and some fun shooting. Added a limbsaver on the butt and it's real nice. I knew as soon as I picked it up that it was the one. A gun is a real personal choice. Only thing I can suggest is try holding a lot of different ones.
 
I just bought the Winchester SXP 18 and 26 barrels. I really like it and it was really cheap.
 
For a pump action you can't go wrong with a Remington 870, a Benelli Nova or Super Nova would also be a good choice. For a semi auto I don't know but I'd start with a Remington 1170, also look at Winchester, Browning, Beretta, etc.

I don't know what to suggest for a barrel length, you're going to have to decide what will work for you. The shorter barrel "Home Defense" shotguns don't typically have a interchangeable choke system (they have a "cylinder choke" and you would be unable to replace it with a tighter choke which you would want for skeet shooting), a typical hunting shotgun with a 24" barrel is going to be awful long to try and maneuver inside your home. Personally I'd go with an 18" or 20 " barrel, it will be fun to plink around with and would be a good HD gun, then get a nice over/under for shooting skeet.

In regards to the comments above about recoil between pump and semi auto: Yes, on paper there is a fixed amount of recoil for a particular round no matter what you're shooting it out of, in practice however, a semi-auto has much less perceived recoil than a pump action because the recoil is spread out over a longer period of time and used to operate the action instead of all being absorbed by your shoulder all at once. I can load up my Winchester Super-X 2 with 8 full power slugs and put them on target as fast as I can pull the trigger. The same rounds out of a pump shotgun are brutal, even out of a Benelli M4 (also a semi-auto but inertia operated rather than gas) they are bad. A pump action is simple and may be more reliable than a semi-auto but it's still not fool proof, under stress especially, you can "short stroke" the pump and still have problems.
 
Thanks for the recommendations. A friend of mine has a nice skeet setup at his place, so when I go over there I wind up borrowing someone else's shotgun so I can play along. I figured I should get my own. Otherwise, I really don't plan on using it too much, which is why I'd prefer to get something that can pull double duty.
 
I can highly recommend a Mossberg 930 SPX. All ot needs is a barrel/magazine tube support clamp from Nordic Components. Fast & reliable.
 
FNH SLP Police model. You can skeet shoot, 3 gun, and home defense in one easy package. Quick choke change and your done.
 
FNH SLP Police model. You can skeet shoot, 3 gun, and home defense in one easy package. Quick choke change and your done.

I hadn't considered the SLP, but it's certainly intriguing. When I started researching it, the Remington Versa Max drew favorable comparisons. Does anyone have any experience with it?
 
Remington 870 isn't the most popular shotgun ever made for no reason...

I agree

Buy a used 870 express with a deer barrel for HD.

The older ones with the shorter chambers will be cheaper because they will be out of favour with the waterfowlhunters.
They will want the new longer chambers for steel shot.
 
Check out pawn shops/gun shops for used a vintage 870 WINGMASTER w/ standard 2 3/4" chamber and vent rib 26" modified barrel. Don,t waste your $ on an 870 Express...these shotguns are a POS and do NOT hold up. ..trust me on this!
For a bit more shekels you may find a vintage Winchester Model 12 argueably the finest pump ever made. Newer ain,t
Necessarily better.

Ron
 
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