should I get a Manix 2?

jnich67

jnich67

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I'm having one of those impulsive moments and feel the need to buy something - even though I know I shouldn't spend the money! Somebody tell me why I shouldn't get the Manix 2 I've been eyeing for so long now. :(

Jordan
 
If you buy now, you'll save money not buying the S90V version rumored to be coming later in the year. Then again you might end up with a collection.
 
shunsui said:
If you buy now, you'll save money not buying the S90V version rumored to be coming later in the year.
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Wrong... If you buy now, you'll end up having to Manix 2s when the S90V version comes out. You know I'm right :p
 
Definitely buy it:thumbup: great knife for an unbelievable price, you can't go wrong
 
You shouldn't buy a Manix 2 because the lock has yet to proved itself to be reliable and trouble free.

Also, there is rumoured to be better, or at least different, blade shapes and metals coming down the road. Get the best and be happy.

And finally, why buy a Manix 2 when a Leafstorm is calling your name?
 
orthogonal1 said:
You shouldn't buy a Manix 2 because the lock has yet to proved itself to be reliable and trouble free.

Also, there is rumoured to be better, or at least different, blade shapes and metals coming down the road. Get the best and be happy.

And finally, why buy a Manix 2 when a Leafstorm is calling your name?
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I don't know about you, but the BBL has been around for quite a while on several different models and proved to be very reliable. No reports of spring breakage at least.

Better steels may come, but remember that a FFG S90V 4"+ Manix 2 would cost about double the current one.
 
Josh K said:
Better steels may come, but remember that a FFG S90V 4"+ Manix 2 would cost about double the current one.
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Josh, is the S90V going to be the larger model?? I was under the impression it was going to be the same size as the smaller one and a different larger one is a ways off...

Ken
 
Josh K said:
I don't know about you, but the BBL has been around for quite a while on several different models and proved to be very reliable. No reports of spring breakage at least.

Better steels may come, but remember that a FFG S90V 4"+ Manix 2 would cost about double the current one.
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I don't know about you, but I've only seen the CBBL on two knives and it is in the pockets and in the use of the ELU that problems seem to arise. As evedenced by two threads that I know of, few people seem to carry and actually use the P'Kal.

Spring failure? Who said anything about spring failure? In my Dodos and D'Allara, small, hard particulate matter was an issue - lubeless helped, but random lock issues remained.
 
kbuzbee said:
Josh, is the S90V going to be the larger model?? I was under the impression it was going to be the same size as the smaller one and a different larger one is a ways off...

Ken
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IIRC the FFG model was going to be larger and in S90V. That could change, but that's what I remember hearing last. I believe Sal said Eric was working on a 4"+ model he wanted done in S90V.

orthogonal1 said:
I don't know about you, but I've only seen the CBBL on two knives and it is in the pockets and in the use of the ELU that problems seem to arise. As evedenced by two threads that I know of, few people seem to carry and actually use the P'Kal.

Spring failure? Who said anything about spring failure? In my Dodos and D'Allara, small, hard particulate matter was an issue - lubeless helped, but random lock issues remained.
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What would change the reliability of caging the BBL?

Spring failure was a reference to the most common problem seen with the most similar lock, the AXIS lock. Wasn't the Dodo linerless? I seem to remember a short run of problems with early renditions of that model. Never had a problem with my D'Allara though. That knife worked through sand, dirt, mud, everything.
 
Josh K said:
but remember that a FFG S90V 4"+ Manix 2 would cost about double the current one.
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This is what I’m thinking, the M2 as it stands now has risen to the top of the value for money class (replacing one of its brother spydies).
 
In mine it was an usually an issue involving the piston like piece. I had multiples from different times, so I can only assume they were representative of the production changes. Kept some Dodo knives inspite of the issues.

As to change in reliability, small difference can change things. The older BBL is not exactly the same as the CBBL.
 
Handled one at the SFO last week and it changed my opinion. I was an old school Manix guy as I had carried one as an EDC for years. The new one had a great fit and finish, was nimble in hand and locked up tight.

Not a fan of the grind but that can be solved.

Get one, its a great value.
 
quite a heavy and a heavy duty knife. had a brief look at it at warriors the other day.
a bit to weighty for me plus I personally am not all that fond of the lock. using both the index and thumb (one on each side) to release it, I don't care that the blade drops like a guillotine into the closed position much like my CS ak-47. Lockback and liner are still my lock ups of choice.
 
I've seen the criticisms of the M2 here & there & had no opinion till one showed up on the doorstep yesterday.

I've carried the original Manix pretty much since it first came out & I was able to get a fitted leather belt sheath for it. For me, the Manix is not a pocket carry proposition, too big & gets in the way. That's just me, though.
In that sheath it goes with me everywhere except weddings & funerals, town & country, and it's always on the belt. It's not the only "survival" blade I take on backcountry expeditions, but it and the Swiss Army Knife are the ones that're always on my body.
I don't particulary like the feel in hand (flat & blocky), but do like what it offers in function.

The M2 isn't the same knife, as others have noted, and I still don't consider it a "pocket knife". Others will find it adaptable.
Otherwise, it's solidly built, very smooth in opening & closing, and even though it only offers right or left side tip up carry options, that happens to be the way I prefer to carry a clip-folder (albeit smaller).
The ability to tighten scews as necessary is a plus, and some might find a use for the lanyard hole.

I was a bit surprised at the synthetic "cage", but can only hope that the Spyderco people know what they're doing with it in terms of strength & longevity. They'd have to know up front the M2 will be run hard & any failures would bite them hard.

The jimping may tear up pockets, but I don't find it objectionable in the hand (although it might become an issue with very extensive non-stop use of the build-an-emergency-log-cabin-shelter type), and I like the two choils. Ergonomics, aside from my preference for more rounded & less flat grip panels, are good.
The hollow grind, as opposed to the flat grind of the original Manix, is not an issue for me.

Lock strength is automatically suspect for me on ALL folders, and I treat them accordingly, regardless of manufacturer claims. Some I do recognize are stronger than others, but the point is that I don't treat them as fixed blades & consequently have only had one fail on me over 30 years ago, at which point I learned not to treat any folder as a fixed blade & not to expect it to be a fixed blade. Period!
The M2 lock appears stout enough, and if I weren't already committed to the Manix I wouldn't mind this one.

I don't switch around, not a member of the Blade Du Jour Club. When I find something that works, that's what gets carried until or unless something comes along that offers enough improvement in meeting my needs to replace whatever came before it.
Otherwise, the M2 would do it for me. This one will go in one of the Indy bags as a backup.

Any of that help?

Denis
 
jnich67 said:
I'm having one of those impulsive moments and feel the need to buy something - even though I know I shouldn't spend the money! Somebody tell me why I shouldn't get the Manix 2 I've been eyeing for so long now. :(

Jordan
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It's a great knife, but if you shouldn't spend the money, wait. It will be around later.
 
I know I'm getting one as soon as make my next credit card payment!! :p It seems like a great knife for the money! As for whether or not the BBL is reliable, well, I've personally never heard any complaints about it.
 
Thanks for all the info...I caved and ordered one this morning. I've been leaning more toward FBs lately, but with summer and all, I'm finding them difficult to conceal. Hopefully I'll like the M2. I like the size and shape of the Tenacious and want somthing in the same ballpark, but with a step up in quality. :thumbup:

Jordan
 
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