Shoulder carrying rig?

mercop, what makes the kydex he has so damned good? in all reality, i just dont see how it can be that much better... is it just overall different material?

i would hope the material is different because i will say it again and i have said it over and over, the benchmade kydex sheath for the 175 CBK is the epitome of shitty sheaths!

i am going to be sending my 175 that is scratched from the BM sheath back to BM tomorrow maybe and then head up to NGK sometime this weekend and get another 175 until it gets back to me from oregon from the bm factory...

my only ? is this.... why are they going to replace my 175 i have now with a new one and then put the thing back into the same kind of sheath that sratched the one i have now???? can someone answer me that... because i am having a hard time figuring that out...
 
Hey Guys....

Reconseed...

Grab A Coffee or a cold drink.

Rant Mode

**ON**

First off,, let me say that you have a legitimate question" What makes the kydex he has so damned good ?".

The sheath you have is injection molded. The two halves of the sheath are made by pressing a button, and then they are slapped together, usually with eyelets that are too short, with some, most,all being cracked.

They don't fit properly because they haven't been tuned and are usually "generic" sheaths. When they come out of the machines,, thats what you get, a sheath with the outline of what resembles a blade on one side,, and a flat piece of some injection molded material on the other, and sometimes some cheap assed clip that is absolutely useless for anything..

"i just dont see how it can be that much better..."

With this statement I can tell you've never actually owned anything that was custom or even handmade for that matter.

That's like asking: "Whats the difference between Columbia River's Brian Tighe knives, and,,,, Brian Tighe's Knives ? "

Parody Statement: " I Don't see how a Brian Tighe Handmade, custom knife could be better than Columbia River's version ! "

The difference is...
One's made by machines and assembled in a factory somewhere,, and ones made by machines, and has been assembled by Brian Tighe in his own personal shop...

A World of difference...

As far as shitty sheaths are concerned...

It happens,, not everyone is going to be happy with the sheath that comes with a $65 production knife...

The good thing is,,what you have over some Joe Smuck who hasn't heard of Bladeforums before is,, You have the best selection of sheathmakers in the World at your finger tips. There aren't better sheath makers Anywhere, and that ranges in all mediums, Leather, Kydex,Concealex,Nylon ect ect.

Sure, you're going to pay for it,, and sometimes you'll pay more for the sheath then the knife, or at least as much as.. It does happen, however this is what happens when something custom needs to be made...

Your not happy with the factory sheath ?

Then as I see it you have several choices..

#1 Live and Deal with it
#2 Contract a custom sheath
#3 Make your own sheath
#4 Send the Knife back and hope they send you one that doesn't scratch...

First of all.. I'm kind of shocked that they would exchange a knife that is scratching...Secondly.. What you have is a working knife,, not an art piece..

If you want to keep it pristine, clean and shiny, or subdued in your case, you need to be contracting a custom display case maker,, not a sheath maker...

You are using the knife as a defensive tool, that hopefully will never see any action.

Don't worry about scratches on a tool that is made to do this kind of duty..
Save those worries for the $5-6-700.00 pieces that see more of the inside of a safe, then sunlight..

Enjoy your knives,, and if the sheath system it comes with doesn't work for you,, then go back to the choices you have and take care of business...

The whole reason I started this business is because I was sick and tired of Crap-ola sheaths that didn't work for me because I'm left handed,, and happen to be Very particular about the way I carry a blade....

I've made a couple of sheaths since I started this,, so I kind of know what I'm doing.. Your Benchamde isn't much different than the CS Safe Keeper III that I've got on my bench at the moment...

"my only ? is this.... why are they going to replace my 175 i have now with a new one and then put the thing back into the same kind of sheath that sratched the one i have now???? can someone answer me that... because i am having a hard time figuring that out..."

What's going to happen is,, they will send you another knife, that may or may not scratch,, or quite possibly scratch the knife in another area..

The reason they'll send you the same sort of thing, is simply because, they have nothing else. They are knife makers,, not sheath makers. Half the time the sheath is an afterthought to a knife company,, or they have such as small profit margin on the knife already,, they can't afford to put much over it.. What you get is what you get.. simple as that..

That is, and will continue to be the main reason I thrive in this business!


I've made you what I thought was a fairly resonable trade offer of a couple of custom made sheaths in trade for the 175..

You already know what the other sheath maker was going to charge you ($65), so the offer still stands if you want to take me up on that,, I'm Always open to offers and suggestions...

However By all means,, you have to do what you have to do,,what your comfortable with, and what you can afford...

I'm here if you need me..

Rant Mode

**OFF**

ttyle

Eric E. Noeldechen
On/Scene Tactical
 
Just one guy talking I don't EDC blades in leather, it squeeks, sweats and loosens up. There is also no comparison between a factory kydex sheath and one of Normarks. Many others can attest to that.
Squeeks? Maybe you had a mouse caught in there somewhere. :confused: None of mine squeek, but I do have a couple that grunt from time to time, or is that me?:o

Sweating leather? You sure its dead? Might wanna look for some leather anti persperant. :cool:

Depending on the quality of leather used and the type of sheath it is, loosening is not a major factor. Cheap leather, like cheap kydex will either: one, ruin a good blade, or two, lose said blade. Good leather, like good kydex will: one, enhance a blade, and two, hold on to it for a very long time. I hold a well made sheath in the same esteem no matter what the material.

Generalizations

Similar generalizations can be made about kydex, its noisy, either grips blades to hard or not hard enough, holds sand and dirt thereby scratching up the blade, etc etc. Its a vicious circle and not all true, simply an example.

Again, I hold all well made sheaths in high esteem. Its the craftsman, and his materials that make a great carry system. Neither product has any serious advantages over the other, its simply a matter of preference.

btw, yes, I have sheaths made from all the major materials, but I carry leather, and it has yet to let me down, or squeek. :D
 
Hey Guys....

You already know what the other sheath maker was going to charge you ($65), so the offer still stands if you want to take me up on that,, I'm Always open to offers and suggestions..

I'm here if you need me..

Rant Mode

**OFF**

ttyle

Eric E. Noeldechen
On/Scene Tactical
wow! You wrote that while I wrote my little response to mercop?? YOu type much better than I Gungadin. ;)

That "other sheathmaker" aint me for anyone elses reference, a shoulder rig from me for any knife is gonna cost a tad bit more than that. I'm not typing in offense just clarifying, I dont want to get someone writing in and wanting a 65.00 shoulder rig. :o

Good words by the way Eric, judging the whole kydex industry by one inferior piece isnt a good thing. Same goes for leather, I'm constantly asked if my sheaths will rust a knife.
 
Hey Guys...
Leatherman..

I Agree Completely that sheaths are a VERY personal thing...

I look at them like women...

White, Black, Asian, Greek, Middle Eastern, Indian, Hispanic...
Under the right circumstances,, They're All Good!! :)

If they are Well Built and Good Looking,, Sheaths and Women are the Same Thing!! :)

ttyle

Eric
O/ST
 
Hey Leatherman..

You are correct,, it wasn't you..

It was a Bender,, Not a Stitcher who quoted $65

BTW..

Thanks..:)

That took me awhile to write..
Pheeew!

ttyle

Eric
O/ST
 
Leatherman to be honest I am talking about my experience with leather holsters. The ones I had when I cam on the job did squeek, did soak up sweat and did loosen up. I just dig kydex I guess. I have found leather knife sheaths to be good carry options just not good deployment options.

And thanks Eric for answering reconseeds question. I recently para cord wrapped a handle of one of the BM pushdaggers at a fun show. My buddy got it for $34. $33.50 of that was for the knife.
 
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