Show me your paper wheel setups!

pic of my razor sharp edgemaking wheels. have the 10x1 1/4" wheels. have the variable speed grinder, and always use it at its lowest speed. had a giant grizzly buffer but returned it as it was too big.
I don't have it out on the table so don't mind the pic. works fantastic tho!!!
 

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Very nice, I have a harbor freight grinder seems to work well. I would attach a picture but get an error due to administrative rights or something. On edcforums.com I can just click attach picture weird they won't you do that on here.
 
Laser guided!

Original setup...

LaserPaperWhl.jpg


Current setup (wheels in the background are narrow for serrations):

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Belt sander setup w/ Paper Wheel polish:

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:)

(You have to have a paid acct. to post pics on here, otherwise you can host them somewhere else (I used photobucket), then post the img link.)
 
Hello cbwx34, could you explain how the laser helps you. I have not yet tried paper wheels but I am sure I will sooner or later.
 
I sharpen on the paper wheels at the top of the wheel, wheel turning away, holding the blade level and setting the angle by moving down the wheel. Described here: Paper Wheel Sharpening

Saw this laser level guide at Lowes for around $12. It's a Black and Decker BDL220S. Has a magnet in the base so I just stuck it on a clamp above the wheel. Made tick marks on the grinder body for certain angles. Now I just line the laser on the mark, turn the wheel on, and I have a nice guide to maintain the angle. Works especially well for unusual shaped blades. Sharpen with the blade just below the line, so it doesn't get reflected back.
 
cbwx34 said:
Laser guided!

Original setup...

LaserPaperWhl.jpg


Current setup (wheels in the background are narrow for serrations):

95f60b2c469d444407b59044136ff7b6_zpse269727a.jpg


Belt sander setup w/ Paper Wheel polish:

MT_01.jpg


:)

(You have to have a paid acct. to post pics on here, otherwise you can host them somewhere else (I used photobucket), then post the img link.)
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That laser Idea is awesome, how hard was that to get all setup?
 
jayjaytuner: I have the same grinder you have and was wondering if the wider 10" wheel would fit the shaft. Did you have to do anything special to get the wheels to fit? How is the 10" wheel working out for you? Does this grinder have enough power for the 10"wheels? Thanks for the post Jeff

sampson2269: I have the same Laser and do find it useful. If you have many hours sharpening on the wheels, you probably wouldn't need the Laser anymore. For some reason my Laser is weak on the left side. Images shown here look much better than mine. Where did you get that belt sander attachment for the grinder? Great post. Thanks. Jeff
 
sampson2269: The laser setup was pretty easy to setup. An online calculator gave me the circumference, then I divided it to get the distance for every 10 deg. (.698" on an 8" wheel if my notes are accurate - don't trust me :) ). Then made tick marks on the wheel. So, to set the laser, I "zero" the wheel, line the laser light up on the angle I want, and sharpen. (As an afterthought, since I don't move the grinder or laser, I just made tick marks on the grinder itself, and now line up the laser using those). Easier to do than it sounds.

303tango: The belt sander attachment is a "Multitool Belt Grinder" I got a few years back.
 
303tango said:
jayjaytuner: I have the same grinder you have and was wondering if the wider 10" wheel would fit the shaft. Did you have to do anything special to get the wheels to fit? How is the 10" wheel working out for you? Does this grinder have enough power for the 10"wheels? Thanks for the post Jeff
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Nothing special to get the wheels to fit, they went on a little tight at first, so I took some wax and covered the shaft, and turned the grinder on, and slowly and carefully pushed the wheel into place and it smoothed it out,turned it off & put the washer & nut on & was gtg!.

the wheels are working great!!, haven't had any problems with power, the motor runs a little hot i'v noticed but that's even when its running without sharpening. no problems so far tho.
 
Getting the correct angle on a wheel, freehand, is over my head. I do not understand it. Even with the laser, I do not understand how it works. Can someone explain it to me?

A you tube video would be great.
 
I would start by reading the entire paperwheel forum by Richard. It'll take about 3 days to through it all but will help tremendously with the paperwheel system. He will also call you and go through everything with you if need be.
 
NRA, Imagine you're standing in front of your grinder. Grinder turns top to the rear. Away from you. We will be using the top of the wheel to work from. Now you're looking at the wheel from the side. This wheel, lines drawn, divided into four 90 degree sections. Let's turn one of those lines straight up. Now, still looking at the side of the wheel, line dead vertical, imagine tic marks coming forward from the top of the wheel (to your left) at approx 3/8" intervals, along the outside edge of the wheel. These tic marks correspond to approx. 5 degrees. So, lets come towards the front three tic marks (15 Degrees). Now imagine a blade held horizontal at zero degrees contacting the wheel at the third tic mark. This will result in a 15 degree bevel ground on the blade. Now imagine you're at the front of the wheel, blade in hand ready to sharpen. Remember exactly where that 15 degree tic mark was on the side of the wheel? It is a little harder to visualize with any precision looking at it from the front. But wait! Let's position a laser line on the face of the wheel at the third tic mark, fifteen degrees. Now with the laser line on the face of the wheel you can be much more precise in placing your blade held flat to the wheel at the laser line. Guys like Richard J are experts and can do this without any aids with fantastic results. Paper wheels are the real deal in my opinion, well worth the investment in time to develop skill. One of the main advantages is speed. Like Richard say's "When your time is important to you". Now, if you can tell me how to post my pictures here EASILY, we'll be even.... Rgds, jeff
 
Jeff, do you have a picture account somewhere? I use Flickr.

Right click on any photo on the internet, and choose copy.

Come here and right click in the dialoge box and click paste.

That will leave you with a string like

https://www.nra.org/adserver/ads/instructor_banner-green2.jpg

Click Go Advanced, or Preview Changes,

You now have a dialogue box with [ url ] and [ /url ] wrapped around your image address. To change it from an address to an image, change the url to img in both sets of brackets.

My solution is not how this site is supposed to work, but it is the way I get it to work.
 
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NRA,
You can see the tic marks in my post #5 this thread. I have been using the laser for over a year now. Used the tic marks to first set up the laser marks on a permanent plate. Now just aim the laser at the marks on the plate and I have the angle I want marked across the wheels when its running.
Ron
 
The slowest among us (yep, me) need video instruction.

Are you guys getting it close, like drawing a knife plumb, through a SharpMaker, or is there more science coming to play in this?
 
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303tango said:
NRA, Imagine you're standing in front of your grinder. Grinder turns top to the rear. Away from you. We will be using the top of the wheel to work from. Now you're looking at the wheel from the side. This wheel, lines drawn, divided into four 90 degree sections. Let's turn one of those lines straight up. Now, still looking at the side of the wheel, line dead vertical, imagine tic marks coming forward from the top of the wheel (to your left) at approx 3/8" intervals, along the outside edge of the wheel. These tic marks correspond to approx. 5 degrees. So, lets come towards the front three tic marks (15 Degrees). Now imagine a blade held horizontal at zero degrees contacting the wheel at the third tic mark. This will result in a 15 degree bevel ground on the blade. Now imagine you're at the front of the wheel, blade in hand ready to sharpen. Remember exactly where that 15 degree tic mark was on the side of the wheel? It is a little harder to visualize with any precision looking at it from the front. But wait! Let's position a laser line on the face of the wheel at the third tic mark, fifteen degrees. Now with the laser line on the face of the wheel you can be much more precise in placing your blade held flat to the wheel at the laser line. Guys like Richard J are experts and can do this without any aids with fantastic results. Paper wheels are the real deal in my opinion, well worth the investment in time to develop skill. One of the main advantages is speed. Like Richard say's "When your time is important to you". Now, if you can tell me how to post my pictures here EASILY, we'll be even.... Rgds, jeff
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Excellent advice, I also recommend reading the entire forum labeled (paper wheels when your time is important to you) It's 78 pages and took me 3 days to get through it all. Once you finish though I guarantee you will feel much me comfortable using the wheels. Also shoot Richard an email, he will call you and explain everything he can to help you get started.
 
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