SHTF/Camping gear stacking

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m1helmethead

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Hello everyone, it's been awhile since I last posted, but I would like to show off my gear I've been collecting for the last couple of years and perhaps get some ideas/suggestions from you fine folks. Mostly concerning cutting some weight and carrying water/filtering water. Oh, and sorry for the crap pics in advance. The idea I'm sure isn't a new one but basically all the gear stacks on the next section to make a BOB or INCH bag.

1st Line Personal

EDC contents:
Wilderness Tactical Original Instructor Belt (not pictured, because I'm wearing it)
Glock 17 w Crossbreed super tuck
Fenix LD12
Leatherman Charge
Misc Keys
Rite in the Rain notepad
Rite in the Rain pen
Sharpie
(optional)
Ear plugs
Hacky Sack



2nd Line Hiking/Combat

Emdom Vehicle Hydration Carrier:
3L Source Hydration bladder
Headlamp
50ft. Paracord
Plastic bag containing TP, bandages, hand sanitizer, and emergency blanket
Sawyer Mini
Compass
Battery container
Food (not pictured)


Cookset: (attached to belt)
GI canteen cover
WWII GI SS Canteen
GI Canteen cup
Canteen shop stove
Bandanna
BK-14 and sheath (Thanks for the sheath ThePointyEnd!)
Plastic bag with a couple packets of tea and suger
Snare
Bic lighter
Water tabs
Firesteel
Altoids can w tinder

Ok, this is where I need some ideas or suggestions. With my current setup I can use the sawyer mini inline and put dirty water straight into the bladder and drink away. When it comes time for cooking I can put tabs in the bladder (Don't think that's terribly efficient) or take the bladder out and pour it into the canteen and/or cup to boil. However, I'm not really sure I like the bladder and was considering taking the carrier out and just adding another canteen cover, SS canteen, and cup. The Sawyer mini won't work with the canteens perhaps, a different filter or something? I don't know. What to you folks think? Keep the current setup or swap?


Emdom Blowout Kit: (attached to belt)
Tourniquet
Celox
Emergency bandage
Gauze
Medical tap
Scissors (not pictured)


Combat: (Obviously)
Eagle Industries chest rig
4 HSGI Taco rifle/pistol mag pouches
Maxpedition rolly polly (attached to belt)
AK-47 SAR-1
5 30rd bakelite mags



3rd line Backpacking/Bug out
To be continued as soon as I figure out the second stage water issues.
 
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Needs more water, food, shelter, and sanitation (toilet paper, camping toilet etc).

Aim to be able to chill out for 3 weeks without needing to use that AK to take other peoples stuff and you should be ahead of the curve.
 
Looks like a good kit for from house to house/ apartment living. It seems like you need more watter though, maybe one of those colapseable 5 gal water containers... Toilet paper/wet wipes, and some minor injury unitised bandaid and gause pads, maybe some imodium and some pain releaver (dollar store). I love your AK, but mentioned, if you don't have MREs, maybe you need a pellet gun or a 22 for food. Take care brother-man.
 
Trash the plastic AK mags, get some steel ones, one in the gun and 2/two extras would lighten things up a bit.
 
Don't give up on the Sawyer. I've used the PointOne, the PointZeroTwo, and the Mini.

The most difficult part is having a satisfactory method of putting untreated water in a container that works with the filter. I use a "dirty" reservoir like a Source, a Platypus BigZip, or a Platypus WaterTank because they are easier to fill at some water sources than the squeeze pouches. I carry some form of "dirty" cup also.
Also, consider the various available fittings.

If I'm on the move, I stop and filter enough water. At the end of each day, I get enough water for cooking that night, the next morning, and for the next day's first fill. I let it filter by gravity while I'm setting up.

In an emergency on the move situation, I could fill whatever I have and filter in-line as you indicated.

Have you actually tried the Mini yet? Try the squeeze pouch(es) that came with it. With clean water, try your Source reservoir with it in-line and as a gravity filter. I wouldn't use my Source as a "dirty" container except as one of my last possible options. Platypus stuff is very light and the "bottle" openings fit the Sawyer. Almost any reservoir will work if you make sure your connections don't leak.
 
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I used to use altoid tins for storage as well but they rust way fast. Switched to ziplocs. No Khukuri/axe?
 
BillyJoeBobJim said:
Don't give up on the Sawyer. I've used the PointOne, the PointZeroTwo, and the Mini.

The most difficult part is having a satisfactory method of putting untreated water in a container that works with the filter. I use a "dirty" reservoir like a Source, a Platypus BigZip, or a Platypus WaterTank because they are easier to fill at some water sources than the squeeze pouches. I carry some form of "dirty" cup also.
Also, consider the various available fittings.

If I'm on the move, I stop and filter enough water. At the end of each day, I get enough water for cooking that night, the next morning, and for the next day's first fill. I let it filter by gravity while I'm setting up.

In an emergency on the move situation, I could fill whatever I have and filter in-line as you indicated.

Have you actually tried the Mini yet? Try the squeeze pouch(es) that came with it. With clean water, try your Source reservoir with it in-line and as a gravity filter. I wouldn't use my Source as a "dirty" container except as one of my last possible options. Platypus stuff is very light and the "bottle" openings fit the Sawyer. Almost any reservoir will work if you make sure your connections don't leak.
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I have tried the mini with the squeeze bag and as a straw both seemed to work pretty well. Are you also suggesting getting a platy and using it as a dirty bag rather then the source. Purifing through the platy into the source?
 
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m1helmethead said:
Are you also suggesting getting a platy and using it as a dirty bag rather then the source. Purifing through the platy into the source?
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Yes, that's what I do. For long trips it's a 3L BigZip or a 6L Water Tank.

For some reason I don't want to use a Source as a dirty bag.
 
BillyJoeBobJim said:
Yes, that's what I do. For long trips it's a 3L BigZip or a 6L Water Tank.

For some reason I don't want to use a Source as a dirty bag.
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Cool, I think I'll pick up a platy. What do you recommend for shorter day hikes? Specifically if I was just carrying a combat load?

Also I probably should carry a extra mag in case the first one fails.
 
m1helmethead said:
Cool, I think I'll pick up a platy. What do you recommend for shorter day hikes? Specifically if I was just carrying a combat load?

Also I probably should carry a extra mag in case the first one fails.
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Can I ask what in the world you are putting all this gear together for? I enjoy camping and hiking, hunting, and fishing, and all that sort of thing, but I can't see myself ever wanting to carry all of that. What is it you are putting this bag together for? (I'm not trying to be a jerk, or to say there its anything wrong here, but I really don't get what you are doing.)
 
W.M.B. said:
Can I ask what in the world you are putting all this gear together for? I enjoy camping and hiking, hunting, and fishing, and all that sort of thing, but I can't see myself ever wanting to carry all of that. What is it you are putting this bag together for? (I'm not trying to be a jerk, or to say there its anything wrong here, but I really don't get what you are doing.)
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I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I was under the impression the title and the intro kinda summed it up? Wanna go for a day hike? Grab the cook set and carrier and off you go with everything you need. Wanna go backpacking? Take everything accept the combat stuff. Gotta Bug Out or INCH? Take it all. To be honest I like the challenge of making something so complex it works my brain and once its done it would be pretty cool.
 
I get what your plan is -- very efficient and a great way to gain experience with your shtf/bugout kit in a modular way! I figure you'll go for day hikes and longer camping trips quite a few times before ever having to rely on the stuff in an emergency situation. In that respect, it's a very smart move and puts you way ahead of the game.

There are plenty of people who throw together BOB, leave it hermetically sealed, and are going to be up "Stuff Creek" if they do need to employ their kit. They'll lack the experience of using their equipment, or worse yet, their gadgets might fail because they were simply never tested after purchase to make sure they weren't factory lemons or inferior designs.

I think you'll find by using your stuff, over time you'll perfect your loadout and be lean, mean and efficient for when shtf. Good, no GREAT planning.

One thing that's killing me is the size of your keys, lol. I would suggest losing all the boondoggles and go slim and light as possible. Cheers!
 
m1helmethead said:
What do you recommend for shorter day hikes? Specifically if I was just carrying a combat load?
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For water, I take almost the same things for short day hikes and all-day hikes that I do for long trips - Source bladder, Sawyer Squeeze or Mini, 1 Sawyer bag, Platypus BigZip 3L, cleaning syringe, Nalgene bottle, a Platy Bottle or three, Katadyn or Aquamira tablets. It's almost 2 pounds with no water!!!

I always consider the following for all trips:

Pack
Shelter/Sleep/Hygiene
Water/Food-filtration/purification/preparation
First Aid, Medical
Navigation/Communication/Illumination
Tools - general utility
Tools - special
 
moogoogaidan said:
I get what your plan is -- very efficient and a great way to gain experience with your shtf/bugout kit in a modular way! I figure you'll go for day hikes and longer camping trips quite a few times before ever having to rely on the stuff in an emergency situation. In that respect, it's a very smart move and puts you way ahead of the game.

There are plenty of people who throw together BOB, leave it hermetically sealed, and are going to be up "Stuff Creek" if they do need to employ their kit. They'll lack the experience of using their equipment, or worse yet, their gadgets might fail because they were simply never tested after purchase to make sure they weren't factory lemons or inferior designs.

I think you'll find by using your stuff, over time you'll perfect your loadout and be lean, mean and efficient for when shtf. Good, no GREAT planning.

One thing that's killing me is the size of your keys, lol. I would suggest losing all the boondoggles and go slim and light as possible. Cheers!
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Thank you brother! Unfortunately my job requires me to carry severals keys and that key chain is too cool thanks for the suggestion though.
 
m1helmethead said:
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but I was under the impression the title and the intro kinda summed it up? Wanna go for a day hike? Grab the cook set and carrier and off you go with everything you need. Wanna go backpacking? Take everything accept the combat stuff. Gotta Bug Out or INCH? Take it all. To be honest I like the challenge of making something so complex it works my brain and once its done it would be pretty cool.
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I guess I don't get the term "inch?" Perhaps. I hike and camp, and am usually not interested in carrying a bunch more than I need. Usually, one dependable water filter, and I think that if you really feel a gun is necessary, one will probably be enough. I wonder what kind of hike you've got in mind that requires an ak-47
 
W.M.B. said:
I guess I don't get the term "inch?" Perhaps. I hike and camp, and am usually not interested in carrying a bunch more than I need. Usually, one dependable water filter, and I think that if you really feel a gun is necessary, one will probably be enough. I wonder what kind of hike you've got in mind that requires an ak-47
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INCH = I'm.Never.Coming.Home.

So you think when society and or a financial collapse occurs you won't need a some kind of rifle?
 
INCH, sounds like a nutnfancy term.

Never heard it before this thread, had no idea what it was suppose to mean.
 
m1helmethead said:
INCH = I'm.Never.Coming.Home.

So you think when society and or a financial collapse occurs you won't need a some kind of rifle?
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I did not realize this was what you had in mind.
The thread title mentions camping, so I'm thinking "camping."
If a societal collapse occurs, I guess I'd prolly stay home. Thanks for clearing up my mis understand.
I stayed home for the last financial collapse, too.
 
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