Shunned....

okbohn said:
Went to dinner with my family. I ordered steak and did what I have done 100 times. I put my steak knife away, pulled out my pocket knife and ate my meal. No pomp. Nothing.

out of the blue, my kids pounced on me, "daaaaaaaaad, that is so embarrassing! Can you for once just use their knives. You are such a knife snob!"

I just pushed my nose in the air and continued to slice my steak while they chewed through theirs with the cheap saw blades the restaurant supplied. :)
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Hey, being a knife dealer, it's your job to know your knives: it pays the bills. Ask the kids if they'd be more embarrassed going to school dressed in potato sacks cinched with baler twine. That should guarantee that ol' dad enjoys his next meal in peace! :D

-Brett
 
I wonder how long it would take for the kids to change their tune, if they were offered an opportunity to feel the difference in cutting up a steak with a really sharp and thin, plain-edged blade. That's what got me hooked on using my own pocketknives for this. When the edge sinks into and through the steak like it was butter, it may change their perspective a bit. Then start counting the days until one of them asks if they can have their own 'personal steak knife' too. :)


David
 
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If I can cut through the meat with the supplied knife, it's good, only been a couple of occasions were I needed my edc knife.( the annoying part is that because you cut faster, you finish in half the time as the rest of the family /Mrs / friends)
 
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next time , take along a MK2 , then they will calm down when you pullout the "folding steak knife"
 
The problem I have is when using a fine knife on a steak...that is in a plate! You are subjecting that extra fine edge to some serious punishment when it hits the plate after going through the meat! Even chefs caution against using fine knives on anything but a cutting board.
 
Just stuff some veg under the steak as a cushion! :D Then cut away in safety:cool:

Or use a CASE ss knife as I suggest, inexpensive&easy to sharpen.
 
One of the interesting things I noticed, when first using a really sharp pocketknife to cut a steak, was that the risk of damaging the thin & fine edge on the plate was not such a big deal. A thin & real sharp edge takes minimal downward pressure to make the cut, and any contact with the plate underneath need not be heavy, if using pressure appropriate to the edge. I noticed with my knife (Case 6375 stockman's clip blade, thinned to <30° inclusive), any contact with the plate was little more than lightly brushing it, and only in a small portion of the 'belly' of the blade, at that. Some light stropping afterwards was all it needed, to correct any edge rolling that may've occurred.

On the flipside, a mediocre-sharp or plainly dull blade will only get the job done if heavy pressure is used (sawing or not), so the edge is subjected to much more brutal impact on the plate.


David
 
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akadave2 said:
The problem I have is when using a fine knife on a steak...that is in a plate! You are subjecting that extra fine edge to some serious punishment when it hits the plate after going through the meat! Even chefs caution against using fine knives on anything but a cutting board.
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I used to feel that way. But then I thought, "what the heck, I have a knife to use!!" So I just cut down and just barely kiss the plate. :)
 
grins000 said:
next time , take along a MK2 , then they will calm down when you pullout the "folding steak knife"
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Is that the one by Shun? I have seen it (even had a few through the shop) and it is very nice. I prefer my edc, though because I don't want to carry a single purpose knife. :)
 
Someday they'll probably do the same thing with their pocket knife...and you can be there to see it and say "Remember when you kids...." ;)
 
That's funny I used my Case Peanut to cut my steak tonight. My kids and wife are so used to it now they don't think twice. My wife usually wants my Sebenza but recently has been after my black Bullnose. Good luck getting them all the way on board.
 
okbohn said:
Is that the one by Shun? I have seen it (even had a few through the shop) and it is very nice. I prefer my edc, though because I don't want to carry a single purpose knife. :)
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I have the Shun Steak knife. Really neat piece. Havent had the occasion though to use it
 
Razorsharp-Travis said:
If I can cut through the meat with the supplied knife, it's good, only been a couple of occasions were I needed my edc knife.( the annoying part is that because you cut faster, you finish in half the time as the rest of the family /Mrs / friends)
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and who gets the pick of the desserts ?
 
okbohn, if the kids did not like you using your sharp pocketknife, next time bust out the sharpening stones and leather strops and fix up the edge of the restaurants blade :D
 
My wife describes my use of pocket knife for steak duty as "slightly obnoxious, but not annoying" whatever that means, but she's never said anything until I asked.

We had a discussion just now on the topic. According to her, it depends on the knife. My Contego? No... A slipjoint? Eh... Rather I didn't... A folding steak knife? Same. Best case scenario would be the Sebenza, then Opinel.

We both agreed that if you are paying for a nice steak (or any meal) you should eat it however you want, so long as it doesn't offend others. If you want to make your steak into a steak sandwich go for it!

Her opinion on the crappy knife (she doesn't edc a knife) is, if they don't provide a decent knife she will ask for the chef to provide one of his small knives. If his is dull we have bigger problems than the knife. I agree with that. :)
 
okbohn said:
Is that the one by Shun? I have seen it (even had a few through the shop) and it is very nice. I prefer my edc, though because I don't want to carry a single purpose knife. :)
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Yes. Yes it is.

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"daaaaaaaaad, that is so embarrassing! Can you for once just use their knives. You are such a knife snob!"
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I try to be an old-school Dad whenever possible. This would have been an excellent opportunity to practice:

"Their knives suck. I like mine better. You don't like it, go sit in the car."

or...

"I tellya what, you pay for dinner and then I'll use whatever knife you say."
 
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