side lock folder questions

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It seems that titanium is the most popular spring material around here. Considering the company it's going to be what I use for my first one. I plan on using it on just one side with polished stainless scales. Pretty but without a ton of grip, functional for a suit and tie guy
1. What thickness of Ti spring would be minimum for a basic 3 to 4 inch blade knife
2. Do I have to send it out for any special heat treating for best life and functionality.
Any tips and/or tricks for my first folder would be helpful
 
By sidelock you mean liner lock? If so, some recommendations from my limited folder making experience:

Yes, titanium. The most common you'll find for sale is 6Al4V, which is a good choice for folder springs. Some of the other TI alloys can have less desirable working characteristics. If you don't have a supplier, I suggest Alpha Knife Supply for titanium. Good selection, customer service, and prices.

As for thickness, I'd recommend at least .040". If making a standard type liner lock I like .060-ish TI for the locking liner.

6Al4V is good as is for a spring. TI can be heat treated a little harder but it's not a common or necessary process. Guys who get farther into folders sometimes use a carbidizer to further harden the face of the lockbar, but there are plenty of great folders made without this added feature.

I have a folder WIP on the first page here, it's a framelock but much of the processes are similar to a liner lock. I'm not saying it's the best knife ever made or even the best tutorial, but it's there and may help. Ray Rogers has a good liner lock design tutorial at his website, it goes further into actually designing the lock than I do in my WIP. There are other good threads around too if you search- there is a great one on a framelock build over at Knife Network IIRC. I forget who the maker is right now.

When cutting TI, it's best to use a fine toothed bimetal blade like a Lenox Diemaster II, and cut slow and patient. Break your bandsaw blade in right first if it's new. This will save you money. You can use a cheap band but will probably trash it on this one knife if you do. When grinding TI I always use a respirator, the sparks and fumes generated by grinding it are a bit more freaky than steel.
 
Yes a liner lock. I'm still very new at this and learning. As for making the whole knife from Ti that will be number two folder. I just want to practice with more economical materials (read cheap here) for a first attempt. To Salem, your pictures and process just recently on the folder is my inspiration for my first folder. That is an awsome thread half the views are probably mine. I don't have the vast array of tools that I would like but I think I'll manage with what i do have. Thanks agian everyone on this awsome site
 
The price of Ti is much lower than I thought. And I am excited to do one in Ti,but for my first I want to practice using 1/8 inch rod and peeking it in to pins and practicing polishing stainless. I may order from AKS the Ti and blade steel at the same time. I have the ss on the shelf however.

Titanium junkies don't need to convert me I'm already in the club the stuff is way cool
 
You will be sorry if you build your first linerlock, and peen the pins to hold it together.

Or your 100th or 1000th for that matter.
 
I've been sorry many times after starting to build knives.
every 1 of those times it's been a lesson. blood lessons aggravation lessons pain lessons . would youcare to elaborate and teach me a lesson that doesn't involve any of them
 
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