Signed up for both PM2 Orange and PM2 Brown Sprints - are they too similar?

I probably wouldnt have purchased a para-2 at all but i saw there was a sprint of it in orange...and i told myself that would be the only way that i'd get one is if it came in orange. i have a d2 foliage green para. and i really like the D2 steel. So on top of not having any para-2s and it coming in orange AND it being in a steel i dont have yet...i decided to get one.
 
I ordered one of the Orange and Brown, I will be buying 2 of the green when they become available for pre-order. I don't have anything in S35VN yet, soo.....
 
where did you guys preorder the brown from? Thanks

its a distributor exclusive so its at several stores. I also imagine they will make more as the stores having the brown seem to be taking unlimited orders or at least not indicating that "this is a run of only 600". I ordered the orange as I like orange and really want to have a knife in CTS-XHP. I have decided to not get the brown after all and get a green in CTS-206P (which is carpenters M390 equivalent) as I dont have anything in that steel yet. The brown just doesnt seem that exclusive and the steel does not seem that much different really from SV-30.
 
Thanks for responding. I know of a few places; just wanted to see if anyone would mention a place with a better price than I found.
I also did not know 204p was equivalent to m390; that's good to know.
I already own the m390, 20cp, and plane Jane . I have the xhp on order and plan to order the 204p.
I do realize the s35vn is a side step from s30v, and is pricey for what it is; just thought it would be nice to add to the pm family.
 
I do realize the s35vn is a side step from s30v, and is pricey for what it is; just thought it would be nice to add to the pm family.

I think a lot of folks will be after the whole set like you. I think that is an excellent reason to not skip the brown.
 
We need a sprint of some full SE models. I know they pulled SE for lack of demand, so a sprint run would make sense.
 
We need a sprint of some full SE models. I know they pulled SE for lack of demand, so a sprint run would make sense.

What are some of the uses for full SE? I'm and ex army officer and was a jumpmaster so for example if I was still doing that the "jumpmaster" full SE fixed blade would be a handy blade to have. Also full SE makes sense on the rescue blades a lot of LEO's and EMT's carry and many folks like to keep in their car. I am sure there are many other reasons to carry a full SE those are just the ones that pop into my head.
 
What are some of the uses for full SE? I'm and ex army officer and was a jumpmaster so for example if I was still doing that the "jumpmaster" full SE fixed blade would be a handy blade to have. Also full SE makes sense on the rescue blades a lot of LEO's and EMT's carry and many folks like to keep in their car. I am sure there are many other reasons to carry a full SE those are just the ones that pop into my head.

I can't believe I'm about to type this...but...let me take a stab at answering with a quote from a great thread at the Spyderco Forums:


With the recent discussion about the Spyderco serrated edge, I thought it would be useful for all of us experts to pull together a list of examples where the serrated edge and the plain edge excel and fall short. Surprisingly there is little information on this subject which I think would really benefit from having some hows, whys and concrete examples.

I hold the belief that both the SE and PE are simply two versions of man’s most useful tools. And that tools will, by their design, excel at specific tasks while falling short at other tasks.

So, I’ll start the discussion …

Serrated Edge - Preferred

Slicing: The SE’s domain is in slicing and it is here where this edge design really shines, especially for soft and fibrous materials. Held horizontally with the edge pointing down towards the material the blade can be drawn horizontally to slice through the material. The blade does not need to be tilted at an angle to the material, so one has great control on the depth of the cut. As the blade is drawn, the curved edges cut the material at numerous angles to cut quickly and efficiently. These features make the SE the preferred choice for:
1. Slicing soft material like bread, tomatoes, etc. This is because the slicing motion and force are not down, smashing the item, but across the material where it is not constrained.
2. Slicing rope. Again, because you can cut the rope without pushing it away, which is not an easy task with a rope that is not carrying any tension.
3. Sawing through cardboard and similar material. Not particularly neat, but fast.

Slippery Materials: The serration scallops tend to “grab” materials. I liken the scallops to numerous little hawkbills. This makes the SE preferred for slick materials like:
1. Wet materials
2. Plants
3. Wire ties
4. Poly rope
5. Plastic e.g. packaging, tapes
6. Fish. Apparently for quick initial processing of your fresh catch.

Edge Retention: The geometry of a SE has two features that extend the life of the sharpened edge. First, a significant increase is total length of the edge compared to a PE. The circumference of each scallop adds to the length of edge. This gives you more edge to use up. Second, the scallops move the cutting edge away from the edge of the blade. The material being cut must be drawn into the cutting edge. This protects the cutting edge from hard materials that might dull the edge. The SE sharpness is said to last 5 to 10 times longer than a PE.

Quick, Rough Cutting: With many materials the SE will leave a cut edge that is jagged, but the aggressive nature of the blade makes quick work of cutting chores. Hence, the SE is preferred to cutting where speed, not neatness counts.


Serrated Edge – Not Optimal

Fabric: The SE has a bit of a problem cutting fabrics especially cottons and other natural materials. The threads tend to get caught and the cutting can come to a halt as the edge essentially gets jammed. An experience cutting fabric with a SE is probably a primary reason why some avoid the SE, but that is unfortunate, since it just doesn’t do well with this material.

Nylon or Cotton Core Rope: As with fabric, the SE can catch on some ropes. Your results may vary.

Plain Edge - Preferred

Push Cutting: The PE wins when it comes to the push cut. Hence, the edge is preferred for:
1. Chopping. Items on the cutting board, trees, etc.
2. Batonning (sp?)
3. Whittling
4. Shaving
5. Scraping
6. Trimming materials
7. Cutting paper
8. Cutting thread and string. SE edges can get hung up and pull.

Slicing, Firm Materials: The PE is used for slicing firm materials where precise cuts are needed. Hence, it preferred for:
1. Filleting
2. Most food prep. Look at kitchen knife set, all PE blades except for the bread knife.
3. Skinning

Clean Cutting: The PE edge is preferred for making clean, neat, precise cuts.

Plain Edge – Not Optimal

Slicing Soft Materials: Most cuts with a PE are made with some slicing (motion perpendicular to the direction of the cut), but the primary force is in the direction of the cut i.e. you are pushing into the material. If the material is soft like a very ripe tomato, you can end up smashing the veggie. This is not to say that soft materials can not be cut with a PE. But, the edge must be very sharp to minimize the forces needed and the action must be primarily slicing. Often the blade can be angled such that the cut is not made perpendicular to the cutting board (for example), but parallel to the supporting surface.


Articles

http://www.ebladestore.com/plain_vs_serrated.shtml
http://www.missionknives.com/articles/Serrations.html


OK, now it’s your turn …

Jim
 
I carry a rescue knife with a SE and a blunt tip daily as I work on horses all day that are cross tied. Should a horse blow up the ties in theory should break. OTOH if they do not I now have a 1,000 to 2,000 pound flight animial in a panic thrashing around like a salmon on the end of a fly line. If one chooses to go in and cut him free you need to be as fast as possible. I reserve the SE knife for just this use so its serrations are always ready to go. Honestly this happens maybe twice a year but I feel better with the knife on me whenever I am around the horses.
 
I have not had a need for SE yet. I know they have their place, but not with me; at least not at the moment
 
I wouldn't say that I have a "need" for them either. For my uses, either is adequate, I just love full SE, and its cutting power and edge retention, and would love to see it offered in my favorite pattern (PM2).
 
Man I wish I ordered the Orange. I got a digi camo one instead, it is my first Spyderco and it is outstanding for edc.....Why oh why did I not get the ORANGE. I need a tissue.
 
AsI feel the same way. To be honest I don't even really like the look of my camo/satin para 2, but it was the only style available at the time and I wanted one badly. Luckily I was able to snag an all black model that is on its way to me now and I was able to get in on the orange sprint pre order.
 
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