Since he asked so nice, I made him one

AVigil

AVigil

Adam Vigil working the grind
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I have been concentrating on making slipjoint knives over the last year. Turned down several fixed blade orders due to that.

Well it must have been the Holiday spirit because I ended up making this client a Ronin Tanto.

This is in .196" AEB-L 62 Rockwell, liquid nitrogen cryo quench. 7" blade 11.75" OAL.

Handle has a carbon fiber strand under wrap, black ito cord and hard core Turkshead knot all impregnated with high impact, food safe resin from Polymer Composites.

Thanks for looking

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plagiarism

noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own​
 
Kam

come on buddy please

I enjoy your posts and want to see more of them

just please take it easy

there are ways to make thought producing posts with out drawing blood :)

it will escalate and no good will come of it

Phill was and is an old dear friend and there are so many people doing this genre that it’s akin to loveless designs

I like thought provoking posts and I know you don’t like to cloud your words but maybe the question....thoughts on using another’s design as a homage would of been more tactful

just want to not see anyone get banned because I like you here



thank you sir

Adam nice knife
 
N Natlek The one where you send me the link to the Chinese Dropbox with hundreds of stolen designs and then joke about ripping off a makers work??

That one?
 
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JParanee JParanee For clarity, my reason for posting is because this is an almost exact copy of a Tendick Kwaiken. Hartsfield has a very different style recognised by his almost exclusive use of straight lines.
 
Oh that is hysterical, I have been making this style for 7 years LOL.
I knew Phill Hartsfield and he is my inspiration, most people who have been paying attention know that.
 
Lets squash ignorance. Phill Hartsfield work has been a huge influence on me. I knew the man, went to his shop and always chatted him up at knife shows.

Here is the inspiration for this blade. This picture is directly out of Phill Hartsfield catalog.

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Which blade are you referring to?

Weren't all of Phil's knives chisel ground down to a zero edge?

I have no problem if you consciously or sub consciously took some design cues from makers who are now leading the trend, just acknowledge it and give credit is all I ask as it diminishes his or her progress in the field if you don't and in some case encourages plagiarism.
 
KamSingh said:
JParanee JParanee For clarity, my reason for posting is because this is an almost exact copy of a Tendick Kwaiken. Hartsfield has a very different style recognised by his almost exclusive use of straight lines.
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Perhaps all three of them borrowed from Neely’s work with Timberline. This style has been around. I don’t think can lay claim to the design, just the execution.

n2s
 
THANK YOU :)

I love this genre and I appreciate all good conversation on it

Let’s not get anyone banned its X Mas

I have the same catalog and that Eagle Menuki Katana was like a pin up girl for me
 
not2sharp said:
Perhaps all three of them borrowed from Neely’s work with Timberline. This style has been around. I don’t think can lay claim to the design, just the execution.

n2s
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Phill was and is the grandfather of this genre with out a doubt

Ive known all of them for decades

If anyone else can lay any claim to the amercanized ......is that a word
:) tanto it would be Lum
 
KamSingh said:
JParanee JParanee For clarity, my reason for posting is because this is an almost exact copy of a Tendick Kwaiken. Hartsfield has a very different style recognised by his almost exclusive use of straight lines.
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That would have been a real surprise to Phill Hartsfield. LOL


For those who are interested here is some of Phills work.
No, Phill did not only do chisel grinds
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KamSingh said:
I have no problem if you consciously or sub consciously took some design cues from makers who are now leading the trend, just acknowledge it and give credit is all I ask as it diminishes his or her progress in the field if you don't and in some case encourages plagiarism.
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I have many many many times have given credit for Phills influence in my work.
You need to apologize.

Ben Tendick is a brother in knifemaking and we have shared information before on these blades, but I do not look to him for inspiration in my Hartsfield style work.
 
I was referring to his tantos of most of which do have a straight spine. Ben's seem to sweep up more on some of his models. From a distance they all look the same but when you look closely the differences become apparent and it seems most of your inspiration is leaning towards Ben's way of doing things as opposed to Phil's original vision.
 
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