single brick forge

I used a one-brick forge with MAPP gas for a while; it was OK.

Now I use a mortar-free 7-brick forge that uses forced-air. The bricks are held together by steel plates and threaded rods. You can adjust or replace the bricks.

pics are here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/patriqq/7BrickForge#


Its pretty good, but I don't think it could go to welding temps without a better blower.
 
Ok Ok My Fault guys... My apologies to the OP, (I had waaaaay to much caffiene and I really should read that book!...)
 
I think Nathan hit it right, without the right heat source it won't fly, also note do not put the tip right in it will melt.
Cheers Ron.
 
I wonder if it would be any better if you took two bricks and sandwhiched a 1 1/4 or 1 1/2 inch pipe between them. You could put a threaded cap on one end to help trap heat in, but you could always use it to put in some paper or char. to keep the O2 levels down. Then put a mapp torch on each side about 3 inches down from one another. That should give you an area of about 5 or 6 inches of a pretty stable heat area. Just a thought.
 
I wouldn't put a pipe in between, you could get the forge up to welding temps or higher. Wouldn't it suck to have your forge weld to your knife or melt! For what it's worth, I've melted one of those torch tips, do be careful.
 
I used a one-brick forge with MAPP gas for a while; it was OK.

Now I use a mortar-free 7-brick forge that uses forced-air. The bricks are held together by steel plates and threaded rods. You can adjust or replace the bricks.

pics are here:

http://picasaweb.google.com/patriqq/7BrickForge#


Its pretty good, but I don't think it could go to welding temps without a better blower.

WOAH! That is one serious brick forge! Small burner output tube too.
 
just a question, but where is the torch tip? if it's inside the chamber, it wont burn properly, (at least mine wouldn't) it's gotta be flush or even a little back from the inside chamber, to create the right air flow and atmosphere (.....................eeeh i think?)

andrew

Wayne Goddard says the tip goes "about one inch from the outside of the hole". If you can set the burner hole to come in tangent to the fire hole, the flame will swirl and heat the inside of the fire hole more evenly.

The size of the fire hole will effect the how hot a brick forge will get. The smaller the chamber, the higher the temperature. It's sort of a trade off between a convienient size and not as much heat.

I've heard of folks using two Bernzomatic JTH-7's a slightly larger chamber and more bricks for length but have never seen a picture of one or heard how well they worked.

I built a brick forge designed after Wayne Goddard's article in Blade's Guide to making knives. I used two bricks side to side with another cut in half side to side (one half chamer hole in each brick) to make the extension that allows either a longer or shorter chamber (chamber hole half way through the 1/2 length pair of bricks).

Using one JTH-7, I get yellow-orange so forging heat is easy to reach. I like the fact a person can get more heat in a particular part of the blade by moving that area to the burner hole. Yeah, a person doesn't have the luxury of nice even heat in the entire chamber but the ability to direct more heat to a specific area is valuable to me.

I HT in the brick forge but turn it down some after heating it up at full flame. The lower heat gives better control of even heating. I've normalized, spheroidized anneal, stress relieved, and soaked for 10 + minutes before quench in this forge. Brick forges have limitations (no big blades) but not very many.

Mike
 
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The JTH7 is what I used (still use it with a half of my old one brick forge for small pieces of carbon steel) and after playing with the angle I could get enough of a orange area to heat treat (over heat if I wasn't careful). Start saving for a bigger/better forge now, the one brick forge just doesn't cut it a lot of the time. I upgraded to a venturi forge (burner from Ellis) before getting my kiln, and it made a big difference in the uniformity of my temps, no more trying to go back and forth along a hot spot to keep the blade uniform...
 
I hated that moving the blade in and out and in and out and in.....trying to keep the heat even during heat treat. Definitely don't miss it.

--nathan
 
WOAH! That is one serious brick forge! Small burner output tube too.

Yeah - I'm not sure why I reduced the burner tube so much... I saw those forges at Ashokan that used 1.5" or 2" pipe from fan-to-forge, and they seemed to work great.

Mine has a a hot-spot that you can see in the photo; it's definitely not an even heat.
 
The reason for the pipe would be that it would perform like a manifold and distribute the heat more evenly, or atleast that is what I thought it would do.
 
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