single person pot & pocket cooker review

Nice pot and lid there, would there be a way to hinge the handle on the pot in some way. Just thinking it would make it easier to pack maybe.

While we're on the topic of pocket cookers what is the general opinion on these?:
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Esbits are good in that they are simple and reliable, but I don't think they make for great primary tools. Apart from being slow the amount of blocks you need soon stacks up if you're out for any decent length of time. That swings the weight penalty that worked for you back against you.

I prefer the below. Similar idea but more useful to me. The little stamped metal pot stand that clamps round the can when not in use is so light it isn't worth measuring. Cleaner operation too – just pop the lid back on. Not like you'd really want to regulate it but if you wanted to you can by just using a bit of foil over the opening. More interesting is that you can extinguish it at any point easily, making it more economical on fuel. Being as it is a gel it is a lot easier for use at other things too. Dip the end of a couple of twigs in it to get a fire going and it will stay where you put it. Better still, and this is the purpose I've used them for, they make a great back up for my pressure stove. Having suffered a blocked generator before, and not always wanting to light a fire just to make a quick cup of something, they are great, but also the gel makes a handy priming paste for when it is very cold as well.

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While we're on the topic of pocket cookers what is the general opinion on these?:
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I've got one and love it. Simple, light, effective. I can stack 4 tablets inside so the entire package is slightly larger than a deck of cards. It is about 4 oz with 4 tablets. Another 12 pack is slightly larger and about 6 oz.

The tablets only run about 10 minutes (listed as 12-15, but has not been my experience in moderate weather) at full power and start to die down. Usually plenty of time to boil water for Coffee or a Freeze dried meal, which is all I have used them for. I would imagine they would be effective for turning snow to water as well.

If you need more power, you can always burn 2 tablets at once or extend the burn time by adding another tablet as the 1st starts dying down.

I think this is a great product and deserves consideration in everyone's larger PSK or as a backup or even primary stove (depending on conditions) on Treks.

The tablets make another good source of fire lighting as well. You can break off a little chunk and hit it with a lighter (have not tried lighting with FS, anyone else?) to get several minutes of good flame.
 
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Esbits are good in that they are simple and reliable, but I don't think they make for great primary tools. Apart from being slow the amount of blocks you need soon stacks up if you're out for any decent length of time. That swings the weight penalty that worked for you back against you.

I prefer the below. Similar idea but more useful to me. The little stamped metal pot stand that clamps round the can when not in use is so light it isn't worth measuring. Cleaner operation too – just pop the lid back on. Not like you'd really want to regulate it but if you wanted to you can by just using a bit of foil over the opening. More interesting is that you can extinguish it at any point easily, making it more economical on fuel. Being as it is a gel it is a lot easier for use at other things too. Dip the end of a couple of twigs in it to get a fire going and it will stay where you put it. Better still, and this is the purpose I've used them for, they make a great back up for my pressure stove. Having suffered a blocked generator before, and not always wanting to light a fire just to make a quick cup of something, they are great, but also the gel makes a handy priming paste for when it is very cold as well.

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Taco, how hot do these get? I am presuming it can boil water in a relatively short time? I guess I have the pic in my mind of the old Sterno cans at a cheap buffet, which were always slow and low.
 
Taco, how hot do these get? I am presuming it can boil water in a relatively short time? I guess I have the pic in my mind of the old Sterno cans at a cheap buffet, which were always slow and low.

You're on the right track with slow. Never timed it but it's definitely a dawdle along like an Esbit or a Trangia. Even with foil round it only seems hot when the invisible flame bites your hand, not when you are doing patience.

Disclaimer - I might have been misleading with the “Sterno” thing. I hadn't heard of Sterno before today. I can't remember what is written on the side of the ones I have had. I punched in “alcohol gel stove” to get an image and that was at the top of the pile [yeah, with Gel Chafing/Fondue Fuels] and looked very similar to it. I figured it was just a different brand you have there 'cos I don't imagine what other significant difference there could be.
 
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Sterno has been around for 100 years.
I've got several old style sterno stoves, even a double burner. On the old pictures and ads they show women cooking on sterno stove with coffee pots and frying pans.
There are several "sterno" type gel fuels out there. Some are just for buffet warmers.
 
That little cooker is neat. I'll have to check that out.

Those nesbit stoves work well for the smaller stuff. Anything over two cups, and a wind screen would help.
Just my opinion here KGD, but I hate that whisper light thing. I've never seen a stove that needed so much TLC. We ended up throwing them away in my backpacking club because they broke so much.
 
I was pondering on these twig burners and wondering exactly what it is we want them to do:

1] Windproof

2] Concentrate heat

3] Be able to get fuel under it

4] Light weight

5] Small packed size

6] Perhaps the possible use as a grill

For the most part I'm pretty apathetic to this approach to cooking. Proper stoves are quicker, cleaner, more convenient, safer, and require less effort to use. In the event I do run out of fuel it is easy enough to make something that dangles, and it's straight forward enough to make a windshield from what you can find be that naturally occurring, knitted from sticks, or built up from dug up sods or rocks. Carrying something that weighs between a pint and liter of water, that exclusively serves this function, is well in excess of my tolerance and I'm not a hardcore backpacking light merchant.

I have seen that weight thing partially overcome with some creative home brewed solutions on other forums. A simple rape of the kitchenware section of Tesco [Walmart?] offers up all manner of things like colanders that may be used as crucibles for burning .etc. Random bloke below made his little rig up from a cutlery drainer and a cannibalized coffee thing.

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Still, while that works, in order to keep the weight and volume down he is restricted to a very small device that you'd have to keep feeding scrawny little twigs. I lack both the will and the inclination to keep that up for long. I don't really want my mate to have it as his primary method either. I don't want to have drunk mine and be packed up and ready to go and have to wait while he's still finishing off his umpteenth fagot.

My solution is below. I just ramped up the windshield that I use round my normal burner. It's made from a plain old coffee can that I filled with water and froze. The ice inside gives resistance and maintains structural integrity when you whack the nail holes through. Cut the top and bottom off and slit it down the side so it can be rolled up smaller that it was. Remember to dress the nail exit holes on the inside down with a hammer to avoid shrapnel finger. Voila, one super light burner shield that can also be used as a twig burner. Packed size is still bigger than I'd like, but I figure adding a couple of crude hinges with some of that heavy wire used to make your own grip leads should ameliorate much of that. I don't think it is worth much more effort than that. The thing is so light it will burn though eventually with great big hot coals, but just for burning some sticks to cook on it is durable enough. [Don't trip on the lid the kettle is on, that was an experiment it isn't attached. I'd normally just use a couple of pegs across. That was just a test to see if I could keep it going with the lid on to act as a spark guard or whether I needed more air holes. - Thinking nest heater]. Anyway, it is light, has the potential to be more compact, and kills at least two birds with one stone.

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Lastly, I've just seen the below and it made me wonder. As it is it strikes me as a bit of an overpriced gimmick BBQ. The grill section would cost $50 USD and the twig cup another $20 USD. Outrageous!

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However, it did get me thinking about the advantages of packed size and the ability to get a good amount of fuel under it. Bin the cup bit off and what have you got – something that you could make with two aluminium tubes, one smaller in diameter than the other, and 8 tent peg shafts. You could get the whole lot in one tube, plus a good amount of tin foil to go round the outside and it would still weigh very little. Even if you made quite a big one it is still only a bit of work with a drill and saw, and could be very compact and light.
 
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