Sirupati concerns...

got your email, RWS and sent reply.




munk - that made me LOL :D
 
Did anybody ever email me about this?

I like this post by Yvsa a lot so I'm going to ditto it here.

"That's why when upon receiving a new khuk you take it out back and at least beat on a piece of firewood with it.
If you don't have a yard then take it out too the country the first chance you get and beat the hell outta it.
If the khuk doesn't fail then you know that you're good too go.
Then if you're fortunate enough to own a nice buffer you can polish it better than new and put her back in the safe.

When testing the knife beat on it from every angle and direction possible. Hit it hard and then put it between two sturdy trees and try to bend it, within reason of course, if it doesn't bend or bends and then returns too true you know you have a good khukuri.
Uncle Bill used too have a pic of him trying to bend an AK in the center of a large wire spool. If everyone tested their khuks fully upon arrival there wouldn't be any question of whether it is a good one or not."
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Hi Uncle Bill,
After much debate I emailed you late last week on either Thursday or Friday. I recieved an e-mail Saturday that pretty much confirmed and re-stated the current warranty.

If you would like I'd be glad to re-submit the original e-mail and or the reply.

Re: Yvsa's post- definitely words of wisdom I've taken heed to. Sometimes it seems the lessons best learned are the ones hardest learned.
 
If you look at the khukuri reviews at the Stamp web site, you will notice that he did not subject the thin blade Sirupatis to a bend test, or the same sorts of tests that he used for the other heavier blades. The Hi AKs came through all sorts of tests with flying colors, but I would not do any of that to my knives.

There were some non Hi knives that bent easily. They were service no. 1 models with tips that bent with little force.
The tips may have been pretty soft steel.

The Sirupati blade is not as wide or thick at the end as some other styles. I would expect that you can kill any knive if you try, but some apparently die more quickly than others.
 
I have never had a problem with an HI product. I haven't given them the "hard" tests that I see mentioned here. However, I don't feel comfortable in doing those tests because if it fails, and I post it, then everybody is going to attack me. Thats just the way I see it. I love HI and this place, but like any place where people seriously are into a particular thing, you better not criticize it!

I wasn't going to post this, but decided what the hay. I hope I haven't p*ssed anyone off. :o
 
Shann said:
I have never had a problem with an HI product. I haven't given them the "hard" tests that I see mentioned here. However, I don't feel comfortable in doing those tests because if it fails, and I post it, then everybody is going to attack me. Thats just the way I see it. I love HI and this place, but like any place where people seriously are into a particular thing, you better not criticize it!

I wasn't going to post this, but decided what the hay. I hope I haven't p*ssed anyone off. :o
Nope, not pissed off but wondering just where you are coming from.:rolleyes: :confused:
I've never seen anything from Uncle Bill other than deep concern when one of the HI Khukuri's fail. When posted in the right manner, meaning not being all pissed off yourself about the failure of an HI Khukuri and jumping all over Uncle Bill claiming that the knives are pieces of shlt, or posted with pics along with the right attitude I have yet too see anyone else attack a fellow forumite because an HI Khukuri failed.

And you talk about criticizing HI Khukuri's I am probably the world's worst. I'm not as vocal about it as I used too be because I know Uncle Bill is sick and can't do anything about it. But the Damned So Called Habaki Bolsters Suck Big Time. There is no Damned excuse for the cho creep and the biggest Damned gripe I have of all is the lack of a proper Convexed Edge!!!!
Look back at my history of posting and see just how long I have been criticizing these things.
And it's not just because I'm an old timer here either. It's because I am right.

But come in here saying Uncle Bill doesn't honor his warranty or other shlt that isn't true.... Yea, you're gonna get jumped.:rolleyes: :p
 
Runs, resend both emails. Remember, most of the time I'm operating with a load of morphine so I forget easily -- just one of the side effects!

I like the way you approached the matter so I might just send you a new replacement AFTER I inspect the returned blade.
 
Here's a thought, although hardly a new one: This forum is not the primary tool for HI warranty administration. If you have a problem with an HI product, contact Uncle Bill directly and report the problem. The vast majority of the time, that will be the end of it. :)
 
Hey Shann- I oughta give credit where it's due. I wouldn't have posted this in any other forum myself due to fear of the whole mob mentality, but...having posted it here has actually been a good thing. Everyone responding has been polite, concerned, helpful, and very non-judgemental. It's really been a very positive experience.

It could also be helpful that I posted this in full knowledge that no one owes me a darn thing, and that I felt no need to attack the good folks or the products on this forum, kinda one of those "give respect/get respect" kinda things.

But...having posted in regards to a defective Emerson a few years ago, I have been a veteran of such tar and feather incidents, I can relate to the phobia. :D

Uncle Bill- I'll keep it short and sweet for now...THANK YOU!!! E-mails coming.
 
He puts the Sirupati in a vise, hammers it until it's bent, and now cries some cock and bull about being stranded in the Artic North, miles from home, feebly trying to cut the only wood around for firewood, while the Wolves released into Yellowstone circle his disabled vehicle. We gonna buy that?



munk
 
..and that old NDN, always going on and on and on about those Habaki bolsters? We gotta do something.



munk
 
looks like the matter is being resolved peaceably.

RWS - don't send it to me, send it to Bill (unless, Bill, you want me to inspect - which I am happy to do, not a problem).
 
I''ve seen more failures than anybody so send it here but many thanks, Dan, for always going the extra mile. Don't think it is not noticed and PLEASE don't think it is not appreciated.
 
Yvsa said:
Nope, not pissed off but wondering just where you are coming from.:rolleyes: :confused:
I've never seen anything from Uncle Bill other than deep concern when one of the HI Khukuri's fail. When posted in the right manner, meaning not being all pissed off yourself about the failure of an HI Khukuri and jumping all over Uncle Bill claiming that the knives are pieces of shlt, or posted with pics along with the right attitude I have yet too see anyone else attack a fellow forumite because an HI Khukuri failed.

And you talk about criticizing HI Khukuri's I am probably the world's worst. I'm not as vocal about it as I used too be because I know Uncle Bill is sick and can't do anything about it. But the Damned So Called Habaki Bolsters Suck Big Time. There is no Damned excuse for the cho creep and the biggest Damned gripe I have of all is the lack of a proper Convexed Edge!!!!
Look back at my history of posting and see just how long I have been criticizing these things.
And it's not just because I'm an old timer here either. It's because I am right.

But come in here saying Uncle Bill doesn't honor his warranty or other shlt that isn't true.... Yea, you're gonna get jumped.:rolleyes: :p


Please look at my post again. I didn't say anything about Uncle Bill. In fact, he is always a gentleman when posts about HI failures come up, thankfully, few and far between. I can't think of a time when anyone actually said he didn't honor a warranty.

IMHO, Theres a big difference between somebody coming on here and looking for advice either on how it happened or did they do something they shouldn't have and people who just want to blat about a warranty.
 
Shann said:
Please look at my post again. I didn't say anything about Uncle Bill. In fact, he is always a gentleman when posts about HI failures come up, thankfully, few and far between. I can't think of a time when anyone actually said he didn't honor a warranty.

IMHO, Theres a big difference between somebody coming on here and looking for advice either on how it happened or did they do something they shouldn't have and people who just want to blat about a warranty.

Shann, I have to disagree with your first post. You're right, we cantina regulars are very protective of HI, Uncle Bill, and everything khuk related:D However, unless i have missed a thread somewhere (which is very very possible), I've never seen someone jump on someone for testing their khuk hard. I think the misconception with testing has to deal with "reasonable expected damage". If you take your 18" AK and chop a pile of 2" concrete patio blocks to pieces, will it survive? Oh yeah. It'll turn a pile of block into ground dust in a matter of minutes. Will you edge be dented and rolled? Oh yeah. it'll look like hell, but that is "reasonable expected damage" not failure. The only problem that most of us have are people that go out, smash the blocks, then post on here to Pi$$ and moan that their khuk isn't sharp anymore and took a couple hours of sanding and filing to get back to a razors edge. That's not failure. That's expected. It's a knife not a sledge hammer.
You have been around long enough that we all know that you are not one of these chuckleheads. So go out and test those khuks hard:) You're not going to hurt Uncle Bills feelings or anyone else's for that matter. I tell you what, and i mean this with all seriousness, go out and test one of your khuks to failure (if it is even possible). If it suffers more than "reasonable expected damage", then i will personally stick up for you in the cantina if anyone jumps your case about it....not that i have any pull in the cantina, but i would be interested in a good hard test and know others would be as well. As long as you don't put a Kobra in a vice and hang on it like a monkey, pretty much everything else is fair game. I, for one, believe that RWS siru was a dud, i.e. not his fault. A 20" Kobra maybe, a siru..i doubt it.
So fear not, my friend:) Test your khuks. Test them hard and post your results. We are all curious and I have your back....as long as it's reasonable which i know with you it will be.
I hope this post has not come across as abrasive or anything of that ilk. I respect you and just want to get my POV across in a friendly manner.


Thanks
Jake
 
Steely_Gunz said:
Shann, I have to disagree with your first post. You're right, we cantina regulars are very protective of HI, Uncle Bill, and everything khuk related:D However, unless i have missed a thread somewhere (which is very very possible), I've never seen someone jump on someone for testing their khuk hard. I think the misconception with testing has to deal with "reasonable expected damage". If you take your 18" AK and chop a pile of 2" concrete patio blocks to pieces, will it survive? Oh yeah. It'll turn a pile of block into ground dust in a matter of minutes. Will you edge be dented and rolled? Oh yeah. it'll look like hell, but that is "reasonable expected damage" not failure. The only problem that most of us have are people that go out, smash the blocks, then post on here to Pi$$ and moan that their khuk isn't sharp anymore and took a couple hours of sanding and filing to get back to a razors edge. That's not failure. That's expected. It's a knife not a sledge hammer.
You have been around long enough that we all know that you are not one of these chuckleheads. So go out and test those khuks hard:) You're not going to hurt Uncle Bills feelings or anyone else's for that matter. I tell you what, and i mean this with all seriousness, go out and test one of your khuks to failure (if it is even possible). If it suffers more than "reasonable expected damage", then i will personally stick up for you in the cantina if anyone jumps your case about it....not that i have any pull in the cantina, but i would be interested in a good hard test and know others would be as well. As long as you don't put a Kobra in a vice and hang on it like a monkey, pretty much everything else is fair game. I, for one, believe that RWS siru was a dud, i.e. not his fault. A 20" Kobra maybe, a siru..i doubt it.
So fear not, my friend:) Test your khuks. Test them hard and post your results. We are all curious and I have your back....as long as it's reasonable which i know with you it will be.
I hope this post has not come across as abrasive or anything of that ilk. I respect you and just want to get my POV across in a friendly manner.


Thanks
Jake
Well said Jake, better than what I said it seems. I was trying too get the point across that no one would get jumped if they came in here with the right attitude. It's only those that piss and moan like you say and calling Uncle Bill all sorts of names as well as all kinds of unjust and unfair accusations that get jumped on.
 
Maybe...with things as they are in Reno...


It might be time to re-state the H.I. Guarantee in a sticky on the forum, and at the on-line store.


Ya think?







Be well and safe.
 
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