Situations where 20cv would be better?

[SBaker34]

I'll have to look through old threads, but I really thought Guy mentioned the idea of working on a hatchet design.

That is good information about the difference in methods between knife and ax making. Could a one piece hatchet be cut from a sheet of steel?

That's the only kind of premium type hatchet I've seen. But they seem to be insanely expensive just because of the size

 

[Insipid Moniker]

That's the only kind of premium type hatchet I've seen. But they seem to be insanely expensive just because of the size

They also typically lack the geometry to really chop and split as well as a well made traditional hatchet. Steel is great, but geometry is what does all the work. I used to be really caught up on one piece hawks and hatchets and then I picked up a $50 Husqvarna hatchet and was wildly disheartened to see it fairly easily outperform all my fancier several hundred dollar hawks. They might be great tools for tearing through cars or ripping off hinges, but the traditional stuff is hard to beat for chopping and splitting wood.

 

[Silver Needle]

I know this is comparing 3v apples to mass produced oranges, but I was thinking of something like these, but in a Guy Seiferd kind of way.

 

[Fancier]

In my opinion the problem with making an entire hatchet or axe out of 3V is that the properties of the steel would largely be wasted in the handle.
For processing firewood the handle just needs to be a shock resistant means of providing leverage, and wood does that a lot cheaper than 3V.
A thin axe head can chop, but it doesn't split as well as a thicker one. The weight distribution, balance and hang have a lot to do with how efficiently an axe chops, which is why those expensive Swedish models work so well.
They've been making them for centuries and they have the design pretty well optimized.
For a combination wrecking bar and breaching tool an all steel design begins to make sense, if the handle has multiple purposes and weight isn't as much of an issue.

 

[chambelona59]

I think Guy's forte is the fixed blade.
The idea of folders, hawks, hatchets or axe's with a 'Survive! Knives' makers mark on them don't pique my interest.

Btw, I run an RMJ 'Jenny Wren' (differentially heat treated 4140 Chrome-moly steel) and a Browning 'Shock 'n Awe' Tomahawk (High Carbon 1055 Tool Steel, RH 50-55)

 

[Riz!]

I have an RMJ loggerhead Shrike. Its a beast of a splitter and chopper. It compliments my S!Ks well

 

[calc]

Axes would see a lot less benefit from super steel. Much less abrasive cutting, much more impact. S7 might be beneficial for an axe, I suppose.

Exactly - axes put a premium on push cutting rather than slicing, toughness, and easy maintenance in the field. Simple carbon steels work just fine for that sort of work.