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SKU Reduction Revisited
- Thread starter Kysa
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-Keep the Standard in G10, or make a G10 Delica
-Get rid of the large Calypso
-Keep the Natives (but only in plain edge
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-Lose two of the Goddards, but keep at least one of the BMic's (All plain edge)
-Get rid of the Copilot
-Lose the Pro-Grip
-Lose the Catcherman (can't recall anyone EVER mentioning that model in here)
-Lose the SS Rescues
-Lose the Pegasus
-Obviously keep the Military (the true flagship of Spyderco?)
-Lose the Michael Walkers
-Lose the Jess Horn
-Keep some incarnation of the Moran and the Jot Singh Khalsa
-Keep the Viele amd the Wegners
Yeah, I know, some or all make not sense to most of you probably. But, hey, it's all just opinion/wishes...
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Work hard, play hard, live long.
Outlaw_Dogboy
-Get rid of the large Calypso
-Keep the Natives (but only in plain edge
-Lose two of the Goddards, but keep at least one of the BMic's (All plain edge)
-Get rid of the Copilot
-Lose the Pro-Grip
-Lose the Catcherman (can't recall anyone EVER mentioning that model in here)
-Lose the SS Rescues
-Lose the Pegasus
-Obviously keep the Military (the true flagship of Spyderco?)
-Lose the Michael Walkers
-Lose the Jess Horn
-Keep some incarnation of the Moran and the Jot Singh Khalsa
-Keep the Viele amd the Wegners
Yeah, I know, some or all make not sense to most of you probably. But, hey, it's all just opinion/wishes...
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Work hard, play hard, live long.
Outlaw_Dogboy
For what it's worth, dump the SS models and some of the LW's and convert them to Aluminum scales. AL is a good compromise between strength and weight. Some of the designer models like the JSK are just too weird to make it in such a competitive business. Rookie, Standard, Worker, Delica, all really the same knife...
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Keep the catcherman. It's been a good seller for me.
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Isn't it amazing how 2 cents worth of opinion takes up a quarter's worth of paper???
wrightknife@ixpres.com
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Isn't it amazing how 2 cents worth of opinion takes up a quarter's worth of paper???
wrightknife@ixpres.com
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You're kidding.
The Catcherman? I hadn't even heard anything about it until I noticed it in the Spydie catalog, and never heard about it here. Oh well, shows you what I know.
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Work hard, play hard, live long.
Outlaw_Dogboy
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Work hard, play hard, live long.
Outlaw_Dogboy
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Hey, I like my Jess Horn LTWT and Wegner Jr. - I just wish ALL of the Spyderco knives had ambidexterous clips on them. Smaller knives are more comfortable to carry, and you don't scare people when you take them out to use them.
Not everyone who carries a knife intends to use it as a tactical fighter. Given a sticky situtation, ANY knife is better than nothing.
Drop the steel handles (Endura II and Delica II)- too heavy and slippery when wet.
Not everyone who carries a knife intends to use it as a tactical fighter. Given a sticky situtation, ANY knife is better than nothing.
Drop the steel handles (Endura II and Delica II)- too heavy and slippery when wet.
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Outlaw,
Yeah, I thought the same thing awhile back. Then one day a customer ordered one and I said 'what the heck' and ordered a couple more for back stock. They were gone in a couple of weeks. I have carried them ever since. They don't jump out of the showcase but they do move. Go figure.
Walker, if they eliminate the P/S blades my sales would drop by 30 - 40%. You would be surprised by the number of people out there who can't decide if they want plain or serrated so they a knife with both characteristics. I have lost track of the number of people who have told me they want the Endura II and Delica II with the 50/50 blade. The partialy serrated blade has to stay.
Oh! And I think James wants to keep the Viele.
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Isn't it amazing how 2 cents worth of opinion takes up a quarter's worth of paper???
wrightknife@ixpres.com
[This message has been edited by Dennis Wright (edited 07 June 1999).]
Yeah, I thought the same thing awhile back. Then one day a customer ordered one and I said 'what the heck' and ordered a couple more for back stock. They were gone in a couple of weeks. I have carried them ever since. They don't jump out of the showcase but they do move. Go figure.
Walker, if they eliminate the P/S blades my sales would drop by 30 - 40%. You would be surprised by the number of people out there who can't decide if they want plain or serrated so they a knife with both characteristics. I have lost track of the number of people who have told me they want the Endura II and Delica II with the 50/50 blade. The partialy serrated blade has to stay.
Oh! And I think James wants to keep the Viele.
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Isn't it amazing how 2 cents worth of opinion takes up a quarter's worth of paper???
wrightknife@ixpres.com
[This message has been edited by Dennis Wright (edited 07 June 1999).]
A slightly different angle on this question . . . it seems Spydercos more recent models have a certain style about them, with signs of rounded corners and ergomonic / variable grip designs (refer to the Rookie, Calypsos, Dragonfly, Standard, etc). Is this an intentional move (or am I seeing something which isnt there) ? Has it worked for Spyderco sales ?
If there is something to the designs, then possibly Spyderco should look towards following that path, and drop all models which are looking tired and may no longer conform to the new design philosophy.
My reading of Spyderco is that they are indeed design orientated, hense the innovative custom collaboration efforts. Whether they have a house design philosophy (i.e. a common theme, other than the blade hole, running through their blades and more specifically the handles) I cannot tell.
In my humble opinion designs such as the Rookie, Dragonfly, and Calypso are forward looking, with the ability to carry Spyderco for the next couple of years. Remember, Im just talking design here, how Spyderco choose to package them in terms of handle materials, blade materials, blade types, is another question.
To sum up . . . I don't believe we should judge SKU's on likes or dislikes, but rather on which of them can carry the company forward in the years to come.
P.S. Why no mention of the Dragonfly folks . . ?
Slipped the mind, or a no-show ?
Regards, HILTON
If there is something to the designs, then possibly Spyderco should look towards following that path, and drop all models which are looking tired and may no longer conform to the new design philosophy.
My reading of Spyderco is that they are indeed design orientated, hense the innovative custom collaboration efforts. Whether they have a house design philosophy (i.e. a common theme, other than the blade hole, running through their blades and more specifically the handles) I cannot tell.
In my humble opinion designs such as the Rookie, Dragonfly, and Calypso are forward looking, with the ability to carry Spyderco for the next couple of years. Remember, Im just talking design here, how Spyderco choose to package them in terms of handle materials, blade materials, blade types, is another question.
To sum up . . . I don't believe we should judge SKU's on likes or dislikes, but rather on which of them can carry the company forward in the years to come.
P.S. Why no mention of the Dragonfly folks . . ?
Slipped the mind, or a no-show ?
Regards, HILTON
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Hilton asked
I explicitly mentioned the Dragonfly as a keeper. My guess is that most people haven't bothered to mention it because it does not seem to be in any danger of discontinuance. I think it should be kept and a number of other folks here have previously commented on what a good cutter it is and how much they like its flat-ground blade.
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Paul Neubauer
prn@bsu.edu
I explicitly mentioned the Dragonfly as a keeper. My guess is that most people haven't bothered to mention it because it does not seem to be in any danger of discontinuance. I think it should be kept and a number of other folks here have previously commented on what a good cutter it is and how much they like its flat-ground blade.
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Paul Neubauer
prn@bsu.edu
HiltonP,
Although the knives you mention are a grab-bag of old (Standard, Rookie=Police) and new (Dragonfly, Calypso) designs, I agree that there is a beautiful trend shown in some of the most recent Spyderco in-house designs: the former experimental series (Dragonfly, Calypso Jr., Pegasus, Navigator).
These knives have a sharper, more stylized hump that I believe draws from the redeigned Hunter / Provenator but flows smoothly into the blade, and a great finger-choil that I think first appeared in the Renegade and Blackhawk. They are handsome, comfortable knives that are all immediately recognizable for a common design flair as well as for the blade hole. It's no wonder they've all graduated from "Experimental" to full Spyderco knives (though their naming is a real mystery: 2 mythical figures, 1 bug, and one of the old-style "job" names)!
I think that Spyderco has found a really fine new look with these knives, and hope future in-house projects continue to employ the same style.
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-Corduroy
(Why else would a bear want a pocket?)
Although the knives you mention are a grab-bag of old (Standard, Rookie=Police) and new (Dragonfly, Calypso) designs, I agree that there is a beautiful trend shown in some of the most recent Spyderco in-house designs: the former experimental series (Dragonfly, Calypso Jr., Pegasus, Navigator).
These knives have a sharper, more stylized hump that I believe draws from the redeigned Hunter / Provenator but flows smoothly into the blade, and a great finger-choil that I think first appeared in the Renegade and Blackhawk. They are handsome, comfortable knives that are all immediately recognizable for a common design flair as well as for the blade hole. It's no wonder they've all graduated from "Experimental" to full Spyderco knives (though their naming is a real mystery: 2 mythical figures, 1 bug, and one of the old-style "job" names)!
I think that Spyderco has found a really fine new look with these knives, and hope future in-house projects continue to employ the same style.
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-Corduroy
(Why else would a bear want a pocket?)