Slipjoint spring question

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I've been slowly working on my first slipjoint and I'm currently trying to test the spring tension. When I assemble the blade and spring to one liner and try to work the action, it just wants to lift and twist off the liner. How do you accurately test the stiffness of the spring because I can't make this method work. Thanks!
 
I leave it stiff and then just file/sand off material once the knife is complete to the desired stiffness. You'll have to assemble and disassemble a lot, so it can't be too stiff to where this is difficult to do. Just hold everything down so it doesn't slip off, take care of the stiffness on the final fit and finish after assembly. Make sure you oil it right after assembly so it doesn't fool you into removing too much!
 
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After you have done a few, you won't have to make too many adjustments. You'll get a feel for what the springs should look like.
Just remove the pins by grinding/filing off the heads.
 
I use a small spring clamp and one liner, sometimes 2. I usually put the clamp on
both the spring and the blade at the same time, where the run-up on the blade
and the face of the spring meet.
 
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Use both liners like the others said. Or use a back plate with hardened pins. I use old drill bits for test pins, they don't gall or flex as much.
 
Thanks everyone, I ended up using both liners and temporarily pinning it all together then clamping it. Worked well!
 
Yes use your liner as a template to drill into a thick steel plate, drive your hard pins into it. it will give stability for your testing. The Ruple dial jig works with the same principle.
Use both liners like the others said. Or use a back plate with hardened pins. I use old drill bits for test pins, they don't gall or flex as much.
 
There are a lot of ways to skin this cat. Using two liners and temporary pins is easiest, just use both liners, and squeeze the pin area tight with your fingers, or use a clamp/vice grips. However, if you make nail-breakers (heavy pulls), with thin liners, you can distort your holes this way, inducing slop into the fit up later, especially if you don't have both liners tight to the spring, with precise holes.

Whether this is an issue, depends entirely on the type of slipjoint you make, and how you make it. If you're making all mono-steel knives where you nail everything together before you grind the blade, no big deal. If like me, you use mostly damascus, utilize a lot of exotic materials, trying to make them as thin and slick as possible, and need to have every component completely finished before you nail it together as the final step, it's can be a problem.

Of course, I don't make nail-breakers, so NBD. I do however take mine apart probably 100 times before one like that is finished, so I like temp pins with little handles on them so i can disassemble and reassemble quickly. Each one is a little different from the next or previous, so making a hard jig isn't viable. I used to use a rise/fall/ruple style jig but found it too be too time consuming to monkey with for my methods.

So I just use my liners and temp pins as mentioned above.

One good trick though, if you do like heavy springs, and need something solid to get things dialed in with. Take your liner, and transfer the holes to a piece of hard wood. Use short capped temp pins that fit tightly and use the wood as your jig. Easy enough to use the same piece of wood dozens of times, marking which holes are which if you're not working off a precise pattern.


IMO, I never saw the need for hard pins for the spring pins when doing fitment, although for the pivot you do want a precise, hard, and smooth finished temp pin, such as a bright finish drill bit. For spring pins though, I just use 1/16 tig rod that I cut about 1.25" long and bend into an "L" shape, using the short leg for a handle. Chamfer the ends a bit with a cup burr to make it easy to insert and remove. The pivot temp pin on the other hand, grind to a soft point, so that you can insert it easier with pre-loaded springs under tension.
 
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