slippies in the woods

My biggest mentor in camping/survival techniques would go a week in the woods with a Buck 110, a tarp, some cord, and a frying pan. He was a smoker, so he usually had a lighter, too. That guy was good.

Seems I'm like a lot of others here: In my heart I prefer carbon, but I find myself with a lot of stainless, too. Knives and guns. I've had very few problems with the steel in either case. Try as I might, I just can't be a steel snob. ;)

-- Sam

Sorry if this is off topic...
do you remember what kind of foot wear he wore? hikers, moccs?

I love my new 110. i do carry my case trapper in bone when dressed though.

Who makes a decent little 4" sheath knife? CASE, Buck, Marbles?
 
buck, and marbles are both good for a little more money but well worth it check out the bark river knife and tool foxriver.
 
I was just wondering if anhyone carries a slipjoint in the woods when hiking or camping to supplemnt a large knife or a hatchet...just ordered my first slippy other than a sak in a while....a buck 303.. I figured I'd start with somethng basic...

Check out Great Eastern. They got off to a shaky start but their recent products are outstanding. Their "scout" pattern in particular makes a great slippie for the outdoors. Very stout 1095 blades and at 3 3/4 " a very good size for the woods.
 
Check out Great Eastern. They got off to a shaky start but their recent products are outstanding. Their "scout" pattern in particular makes a great slippie for the outdoors. Very stout 1095 blades and at 3 3/4 " a very good size for the woods.

I'll second that. Just got my second Great Eastern today. A Northfield Scout in walnut herringbone. Not as much of a nailbreaker as my SARPNT which is nice.
 
Who makes a decent little 4" sheath knife? CASE said:
Bark River makes many outstanding sheath knives in that size. I have their Northstar (in curly maple), which has a 4" blade and is about 8" overall.
 
I do not own a locking knife.
I had one, a Case Mako Shark, I was given by a Mentor back in the early 70's (best guess?) and we both decided we did not like the locking knife and went back to How Raised - What You Do .
Meaning a Case CV , yellow handled Barehead Slimline Trapper for us.

I recently ran across that Mako, and a Fella had returned from Afganistan and needed a knife for deer season.
To keep it - give it away as I was raised.

I was raised on Case CV, and Carbon Steel by Shrade-Walden, Hen & Rooster, Camillilus and Boker (some others I forget).

Mentors & Elders, raised me a certain way and passed onto me as passed to them.

As a kid, with just one slip-joint, and bare supplies, let out in the Back Forty and "Improvise, Adapt, Overcome and see ya when we see ya".

Third grader I was with a Camillus Camp knife, stealing eggs from a hen house and preparing them in the hub cab off the Willis Jeep.

I was given free reign to steal and use as needed on the property - so it made sense to me, to steal that hub cab and use it.

Chrome Vanadium and Carbon Steel toss sparks real good, so I made fire using a Magnesium starter ( they only gave me 3 real kitchen matches) , which I used to cook rabbits and whatever else I shot with a .22 rifle.

<Thump! Anti's falling down upon reading that>

I've spent a Lot of time out in the woods - some were "lessons" - and Slip-joints were what I was raised with.
For a sheath knife? Old Hickory Paring knife in a rag-tag sheath.

3 Weeks in Canada, canoing and portaging , sharing a pack and gear/weight limits a concern-
Old Hickory Paring Knife and some kind of Slipjoint.

Case CV Peanut, Slimline Trapper, Mini Trapper, Trapper, Sodbuster, Jr. Stockman (Med and Large) are the ones used.

Real Hard to beat a Slimline Trapper for serious Woods needs and being able to slip in a pocket always have and watching weight and gear limits.

GI Demo Knife (stainless ) is a real beefy and hefty workhorse. It will hold up where some SAKs will not, ditto for a Scout/ Camp knife.

Still I prefer the the Carbon Steel Camp knife ( carbon tosses them sparks for fires real well and easy to sharpen with a Norton India or AR Soft) - if one is really going to be opening cans and all.
Then again I do not currently own a SAK with such blades, and I cannot find my GI Demo, or Carbon Steel Camp knives... so if I needed to be out in the woods...I could still deal with all this without one of these knives.



Truth is, growing uptoo many times there were NO cans that I had to open and if I did, the "knowing how to use the tool" came into play.

Take a Stockman with spey or sheepsfoot blade, that can will open right up.
Then again a P38 always works, takes up little room and weight too.

Back in the day, no easy open tin cans - to speak of. Spam and other things used a "key" and that was the most "hi-tech" tin can deal of the day that "key" .

C Rations not MREs back in the day, so Mentors included Military Folks, and C Rations and dealing with cans - was easy as could be. P 38s are still hard to beat.

Never learn on a crutch
- was shared often to me and other kids coming up.

Learn to use a slip joint proper and safely from the get go.
Delrin handles and Yellow Handles hold up well in the woods.
Nail nicks used to be such, one could strike a match on them ...this needs to be done again by mfgs and folks need to "tweak" the knives they have.

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They said I had to give back the hub cap from the Willis Jeep (chuckling and grinning as they did) while sampling my big mess of scrambled eggs and fresh caught fish...

So I stole oranges from the truck they come down in...and whatever else I could while they were "distracted". *snicker*

Improvise Adapt Overcome is what they said remember?

Slice the orange , eat the orange, save the rind halves.
Break an egg and put into rind halves, and set onto coals, the eggs will cook.

Biscuits: Just some Bis-Quick Mix mixed with water in hands, and slap onto rocks facing coals - they will bake just fine. Sometimes they pull off the rock, other times best to cut off, still...

Bream, Biscuits, Eggs for Breakfast are great! Even if'n they take back the hub cap from the Willis...

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One of my biggest "tests" was only being allowed a Case Peanut, CV with yellow handles for a knife for being "dumped off" for 3 days.
Worked like a champ it did.


Some years ago - for the heck of it on a trout fishing trip, all we allowed ourselves to use were SAK Vic Classic SDs.
No problem! Classics zipped them trout open in a heartbeat!

No tool is any better than the user of the tool. - Mentors

Correct basic fundamentals , common sense and thinking out the box keeps one alive - me.
 
I like carrying my Vintage Knives Model 1902 Moose pattern slip-joint. The 1095 carbon steel blades take and hold a great edge. Also like carrying one or the other of my SAKs, and also have a #8 Opinel that has seen a lot of service on the trail.

Ron
 
sm2...seems like you had a great childhood and a lot of cool people around you great post thanks for sharing....
 
RescueRiley,

Thanks for the kind words.

Re: Childhood.
Just a poor Southern Boy, times were hard and I grew up too fast and did not really have a "childhood" in the context of modern psycho-babble.
Not really one according to what some had back in the day...

Re: Slippies for Woods?
Slippies were used for everything - except those times when a fixed knife was used. Such as taking one of the Old Hickory knives from the kitchen and taking care of some briar's, or trimming back honeysuckle, hog killing time, butchering deer and other game...

Slip-Joints, were used by ladies and gents, and all the kids , both girls and boys carried a knife, as one was not dressed until that knife was on person (in apron, or purse).

Folks bought "tools" and paid for them. No credit cards , so one took care of what they had, made do, or did without.
Lay-a-way was used and the only "credit" was a ledger and that was paid off on payday.

Selections were whatever the local hardware , feed and seed, tractor supply , auto parts store had or "maybe" what Montgomery Wards, or Sears Roebuck had in a catalog.

Folks tried before they bought a "tool" such as a knife. Ladies for instance would let other ladies "try" their knife for "size and fit" and share "tool for tasks".

A lady may need a knife for more garden work, another might be a new mom and dealing with baby/kids needs. Granted a Imperial , Shrade, Case, two blade knife has put a hole in the nipple of a baby bottle, cut fruit, cut tomatoes, removed splinters , made hot dog/marshmellow sticks, ...and cleaned small game felled on the property.

Gents used the same knife to open feed sacks, scrap gaskets for tractors and trucks, clean game from small to deer size, cut rope, tend to horse tack, cattle marking of ears, make a sling-shot, whittle, strike a mag starter to make a fire, clean a rattlesnake, break down boxes...sharpen pencils,...etc.

Point being - Folks knew how to use the tools. Folks owned the tools - the tools did not own them.

Folks did not grow up with a "crutch" and therefore had correct basic fundamentals of "living life on life's terms".

Environment often dictates what works for task best. So does one's physical being.
i.e. Quite a few of the Vets had missing limbs, amputations, blind in one or both eyes, burns, etc.
So the "One arm Jack" worked best for them. They only had one hand, so getting a knife open with one hand was a real life "need".

Same style of knife works if one is wearing gloves, say it is really cold, and getting a fingernail in a nail nick, after getting gloves off.
Some of today's hi-tech knives are difficult to open with gloves - and trying to use "hole", "stud" or "assisted opening" features.

Slim line Trapper and Sodbusters are easy to open even with gloves on, as one actually just "pinches" the blade to open.

We never know when we may get down in the woods, so having thought ahead is a good idea.
Age creeps up on us all, and hands and fingers just will not do what they once did, like Arthritis.

Still even being young and healthy, one never knows when they may get sick, injured, have a minor surgery, and all of a sudden, "tools" don't work for us.
Try setting up a fancy sharpener with one hand and arm in a sling, and messing with hex screws and clamps and ....

Instead pinch the blade of the Slimline, or Sodbuster, or snag the Old Hickory Paring knife, put the Norton India IB6 combo stone or Arkansas stones on the counter and sharpen the knife freehand.
Mentors without hands, arms did this just fine, and were able to slice an apple, or cheese, or a sandwich in half...or

Freehand sharpening in the woods with a slippie is a very much needed skill set.
So one is wise to learn and practice skill sets, before heading off into the woods.

Veterans of previous conflicts lived nearby. Folks were in the Military and both ladies and gents shared how simple slip-joints did so much in the service.

MASH nurse [Korea] might share what all she did with hers, like freezing cold and she and other ladies using knives to make "tinder" to get a fire going in a 55 gal drum.
Somebody sent marshmellows and after a non-stop 24 hour MASH marathon, the simple sanity of roasting marshmellows in a drum fire to ...to feel human and sane again.

Ranger serving in 'Nam. Back in the States for a short time and sharing how his Case Slimline Trapper was always with him. He and his bunch traveled light and all due to what they did.
His "fear" was having to toss that knife to get back through more friendly areas. So he left his sentimental one , and bought a new one to take back to 'Nam.
He also carried a Peanut, for "just in case" situations.

I have nothing against new technologies.
I am known to share : One cannot buy skill and targets.

It does not matter if one has the latest hi-tech equipment while out in the woods, if they don't have the skill sets.

There are too many folks with skill sets, they can do so much more with a simple slip-joint.
History proves this to be true.
If it were not for marketing, and line extensions - IMO - folks today would better learn true skill sets for the woods and other Serious Situations.

See, I don't personally own a TV, still times have changed IMO, and the Idiot Box is brainwashing folks with all sorts of propaganda from "knives are bad" to "you gotta have a Gee-Whiz Knife" .

Progress? Are we progressing forward or progressing backwards on some of these new equipment "tools" ?

Example: Case Peanut with CV blades will not reach into the bottom of a Peanut Butter Jar.

No big deal, snag that branch and whittle you a spreader that will.
Need a spoon? Whittle you one with that Peanut.
Sharpen a pencil to write down compass readings....

Some of the hi-tech knives will not reach into a Peanut Butter jar, whittle worth a flip, nor sharpen a pencil.
CV blades toss a better spark than stainless IME.

Save the shavings from sharpening that pencil, it helps on making a fire...*wink*.
 
How did I miss this thread for so long?. Great thread to read with so many fine contributions.

sm2,

You had me laughing and knee slappin so much so I nearly spilled my beverage. Everything you said reminded me of my old roots and although its all so very true, you wrote it in such fine humorous fashion.. I think the only thing you forgot to mention was scaling fish with bottle caps. I mean the old bottle caps,, the ones you had to remove by some method other than just twisting your wrist. Those caps were sharp too. You could scale a mess of trout with one of those.. And talk about your minimalists.. As long as you had you a bottle of pop to go along with your fishing rod and your pocket knife you were set for the supper you were going after.:D

Anthony
 
sunnyd,

Thank you for the kind words.

Nickel got one a Coca-Cola, and not sure it was more fun watching the cylinder turn in the little Coke machines, or reaching in that ice cold metal Ice-Box and quickly snagging one .
Always, always ice in the neck of them 6 1/2 oz "Real Cokes".

Bottle Caps, all sorts, from Coke - Coke in the South means anything from Coca-Cola, to RC, to Seven-Up.

Now them Caps cleaned many a fish (scaling) and fast. Maybe just have some on a board, or use a pair of slip joint pliers to hold a cap, and scrape scales.

Oranges-

Now growing up, Mentor of mine- well this old boy messed up his hands, messing with a brush fire and having a devil of a time peeling his oranges.

Burns sorta made using a knife with finesse hard too...so the "fish scaler" made from a bottle cap was spied and we made a "Orange Scaler" and it worked right nice.

I'm just a kid and years later it dawned on me, he never ate oranges that way, (peeled and whole ) he always cut them in half and ate them out of the rind.

Danged if he did not pull that stunt to get me to think and come up with a "orange scaler". *grin*

I've always thought whomever came up with the Paper Tiger , the wall paper removing tool, just took the old Bottle Cap Idea and made it more modern, and marketed it just right.

Truth is, not much is really new, just "tools" comes back around from time to time.


Steve
 
Yep. I used to use a Case Folding Hunter as my primary hunting knife. The skinner blade was used to unzip a couple of deer, and was reserved for that purpose. The clip blade was used for everything else. Great knife, and I really like having the two blades. I think I paid $20.00 or so for it back in the '70's.
 
Yep. I used to use a Case Folding Hunter as my primary hunting knife. The skinner blade was used to unzip a couple of deer, and was reserved for that purpose. The clip blade was used for everything else. Great knife, and I really like having the two blades. I think I paid $20.00 or so for it back in the '70's.

I've been really wanting a case folding hunter. They have offered some in 154-CM - I bet it is a monster!
 
GI Demo Knife (stainless ) is a real beefy and hefty workhorse. It will hold up where some SAKs will not ...

Am loving your posts, sm2. Great stuff. But I gotta figure you'll find some debate around these parts on the above claim.
 
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