Small necker for survival (pict)

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wade

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I was thinking of getting something like this, wrap the handle with paracord, it also comes with a kydex sheath. What do you think? Should I go with something else?
 
That's aCold Steel Bird & Trout Knife.

The sheath on it is not very good.
The steel is AUS 6, fair at best.

Yes, I think you should go with something else.
 
any suggestions for a necker like this? I was also thinking of a hoffman harpoon by tops, but it seems over priced for my taste.
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I think it's an excellent choice if you're looking for an inexpensive necker in that style. It's perfectly good steel and, although I don't know how adequate the sheath is, you could always buy some kydex and make your own.
 
akennedy73 said:
I think it's an excellent choice if you're looking for an inexpensive necker in that style. It's perfectly good steel and, although I don't know how adequate the sheath is, you could always buy some kydex and make your own.
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Yes, this is true. I was about to say that the Cold Steel is a very good value, I paid about 15 bucks for mine.

The problem with it is that the sheath is just a small, very thin piece of Concealex which just barely covers the blade portion. I heated & played with it a lot to tighten it up, but still the blade pulls out too easily.

So yes, If you want to make your own sheath or buy a custom made one that's great, but a custom sheath is about 30 bucks. Then you're in the 45-50 range and I don't think that knife even with a good sheath is worth 45-50.
 
The Becker Necker BK11 would be my choice too for a survival neck knife. Costs twice as much as the Bird&Trout from Cold Steel - but it's probably far more than twice as good for getting work done in the field.
 
I like a handle to hold onto when using a knife and almost any knife (the wife has a Henkels made paring knife I've been eyeing:D ) will do, as long as the sheath is secure and it's legal to wear the knife around your neck. Which here in Calif., it isn't unless the knife is a folder and maybe if the blade is rediculously short.
 
I second , third and fourth the becker. While I find the edge angle a bit obtuse you could baton a great deal with it with little effect. It holds a good enough edhe. I am going to try and reprofile mine into a convex edge.

It is mostly so I can comapre the two edges and to learn how to do it.
 
I like my Becker Necker as well. It is now convex and rides with a Tek-Lok on my pack strap rather than around my neck.
 
Becker Necker all the way! Get one while you can, with Camillus going bankrupt, their knives are getting scarce.
 
I've heard so many good things about the Becker-necker over the past 4 months, I'm going to grab one.
Anything that has a bottle opener included has got to be good!:thumbup:
 
Let me say that the necker handle just fit my hand . I have a very small hand.
As others have not mentioned it there cannot be that big an issue.

I would like to know how to convex the blade edge? I do not have any power tools available at the moment.

I didn,t fall in love with mine right away. It can be seen as just a stamped out bit of metal. It grows on you . The kydex sheath can be flicked off with a thumb flick if you are careful . It holds it securely as well.
 
The Becker is a great knife (all the Becker models I've handled seem really well-made), but if you want a smaller knife as a secondary (as opposed to only) tool, you might consider the Buck Hartsook (S30V) or the AG Russell Woodswalker, which are relatively inexpensive. I own both and they're both plenty tough. The Hartsook is better steel but the Woodswalker has much better ergonomics.

(I'd prefer a larger knife in a survival situation, but I feel I've got enough larger folders and fixed blades stashed around that if I ever did carry a neck knife, I would want something small and easy to carry but still sized for basic work.)
 
Both knives are nice looking with the Hartsook especially pretty.

I do have to say I consider my secondary knife to be my only knife. By definition the term is faulty. By function my secondary knife serves as both primary and secondary. I cannot term it better than that .

I am not here to bandy terms as both knives have their good points. Both definitions as well.

I will have to look into both more. I will have to see more of Mr. Hartsook's designs.
 
wade said:
any suggestions for a necker like this? I was also thinking of a hoffman harpoon by tops, but it seems over priced for my taste.
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I have one. I use it as a necker and it carries like that just fine. My only complaint is that the angle of the cutting edge to the grip line is odd so that whittling wood or other tasks that require pressure to be applied forces the back of the handle to push very hard into your hand. It has an odd feel to me. Saying that, I like it. It seems like a good piece of steel. I'm just not sure I want it all the time. I need to use it more to make a real determination if it really does anything better than some of my other knives. I still don't know if it is going to replace anything in my survival kit or not.

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Kevin the grey said:
I do have to say I consider my secondary knife to be my only knife. By definition the term is faulty. By function my secondary knife serves as both primary and secondary. I cannot term it better than that .
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Kevin, I'm afraid I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying you expect your secondary knife to be just as capable or flexible as your primary knife, in case you DO have to depend 100% on your secondary if your primary is lost or broken?

(Not trying to challenge your statement, just wanting to make sure I understand.)
 
Becker's my choice, too. I recently bought a Buck Hartsook but not handled it yet as Im away from home, but I probably intend to use THAT as a light necker, too.
 
Yeah it is a little ambiguous. Let us just say I put in as much care in the choosing of a secondary or as I prefer to call it a "backup" knife.

I carry my necker in my back pocket as I am not a fan of having something around my neck unless for a specific task.

I carry my primary blade in the pocket of my jacket or another pocket.
My primary is the working knife. The knife that will be used and allowed to get a little dull through use . My secondary or backup is my Emergency backup. It is kept pristine.

In that way and others my secondary is as important to me as my primary.
They may both have different attributes and deficiencies. I try to make these compliment each other. One is a tough, fairly obtuse edged knife capable of batonning a small tree down. The other may be as sharp as a scalpel with a more delicate edge.

I don,t consider what you asked a challenge . The more we are familiar with the definition of terms the greater our understanding will be . My definition of primary and secondary is proabably not the norm.
 
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