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maybe its just me but when you have some to sell your made an offer you accept you do whats asked for you
to do and nothing happens you do not know what to think finally you realize they have changed their mind but do not have the common decency to tell you just annoys me
 
maybe its just me but when you have some to sell your made an offer you accept you do whats asked for you to do and nothing happens you do not know what to think finally you realize they have changed their mind but do not have the common decency to tell you just annoys me

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Agreed, unfortunately not everyone shares the same level of integrity.

There is a lot of anonymity these days, and with that comes a shift in values and morals.

It's similar to the effect of being in a car has on people, they turn into monsters and do things they would never do if they where outside of the safety net that is their vehicle.

You just gotta shrug it off and move on.
There are still plenty of people who place a high value on their integrity regardless of whether they are a name on the internet, or dealing with you face to face....

Yup, I am getting way too deep into this, but it's these stupid little things that remind me that I have to teach my children to have integrity, and to follow the value's, regardless of the medium they are interacting on.
 
kelama i have bought and sold knives before and treat everyone with respect i never make an offer without carrying it out if i was offered something and did not want it i made sure the person knew that , he did not have to wonder its who i am sorry if you do not agree with it.
 
I used to get wound-up about stuff like this... Not anymore. It's a waste of mental energy. It's easy to press a few buttons to satisfy the WANT! reward centers of the brain. Humans impulsively grab at neat stuff (virtually in this case), then change their minds as soon as it's time to actually pay. Humans want, but avoid cost. Sucks, buts that's human.
 
Welcome too BF my friend...Nature of the beast sometimes..
Wont be the 1st time this happens to you in here...and wont be the last
People are creatures of habit..Etiquette and Common Sense are NOT WILLINGLY
handed out these days and.....Things happen that communication stops or the offers
get jumbled and one is missed...OR it does happen that by proper BF courtesy A person
may have claimed it privately too seller and he just never let you know that.
BUT on the other hand.. Which has been very very prevalent as of lately...
Some folks follow poor form....as a buyer and or a seller--
Stick with the winners...Try not to allow this case leave a bad taste in your mouth about
our community...IT has many of the FINEST people I call my friends..Stick around..
I promise you will see the other 98% of the OUTSTANDING people in here..

Best of luck buddy...

==Keith==
 
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Stick around... I promise you will see the other 98% of the OUTSTANDING people in here..

Gizmoman is kinder than me, or less cynical. I'd put the "people who actually try to make situations work out" figure at 97%. Learn how to identify the other 3% (the people who keep the feedback sub-forum alive! the 4chan of BF) and you're golden.
 
maybe its just me but when you have some to sell your made an offer you accept you do whats asked for you
to do and nothing happens you do not know what to think finally you realize they have changed their mind but do not have the common decency to tell you just annoys me


I say this with a sincere desire to help. A good part of most problems is caused by poor communications.

What you wrote obviously makes sense to you. But as the first response to your post indicated, what you wrote is difficult for others to understand. For example, I'm not sure whether you're the buyer or the seller in your story. I would suggest writing shorter and more complete sentences. Make it easier for the other person to understand you.

If your post is similar to how you communicated with the other person, they may not have understood what you were telling them. And they may have thought it was going to be difficult to understand you through the whole deal. They didn't want to risk trying to resolve any issues that may come up considering they have a hard time understanding you.

I wish you the best.
 
I was the seller and contacted by the buyer i wanted a certain price that was fair he offered less i accepted with the provision that plus shipping he asked for pictures i sent pictures that when the communication stopped never asked more questions nothing i did not care that he changed his mind it happens but if our positions were reversed i would have told him and that's how i am .
 
Bad communication on the part of the buyer it seems. Make a mental note and if that buyer contacts you again in the future, ignore, ignore, ignore. Yes, things happen unexpectedly, and sometimes it for es us to back out of commitment, but that does not excuse not communicating that part of it. The bright side is that you are not out any money or any gear.
 
Hello Tim,

It looks like you are very quick to judge.

Josh mentioned that there is a lot of anonymity in these forums, and he is absolutely right. So just so that everyone knows who greywolf27 (Tim) is talking about, it's me. I am grumpy_t and my name is Tony Llovet.
I have only been a member of this awesome forum since May of this year. It has been a wonderful experience so far. Everyone I have dealt with has been very helpful and I have met some great people (including Josh from REK).

So let me get back to the topic of this post.
Yesterday I saw a post for a Medford by greywolf27. He was asking for $350 for his Medford 187. There was no picture of the knife in the post, he just had a picture that he must have copied off the internet. When I check his feedback, I see that he has no feedback. Then I notice that he had joined the forum on Sunday 8-23-2015, the same day he posted the knife for sale.

I then sent him a PM asking if he could send me some pictures of the actual knife that he was selling. I received the pictures around 3:40 in the afternoon. I close my shop up at 4:00, so everyday from 3:30 to 4:00 I go through with my employees what they are going to do the next morning. After I was done I noticed his email and opened it up to see the pictures. He sent me 4 pictures of very bad quality when I opened them up they were all blurred. I was on my way out so I was going to email him when I got home and ask him for better pictures.

Well, when I got home my girls were waiting for me to go take them by school supplies and have dinner. I completely forgot about the knife. By the time they had gone to bed and I was able to relax it was about 10:00. I grabbed my iPad to check on my emails and noticed 2 more emails from Tim. One was at 4:57 and the other one at 5:42. On the last one he wrote " I have not heard so you changed your mind thanks for the offer ".
Maybe I misunderstood his perfectly written sentence ( I only graduated high school ), but it seemed to me that he was pissed off that I was not sitting by the computer answering his emails.

I had not changed my mind until I saw his email. Then I thought about for a minute and said to myself, this guy just joined a day ago, has no feedback, he lists a knife without pictures, he sends me crappy pictures and then he gets pissed off that I don't respond to him immediately. At this point is when I decided that it was in my best interest not to deal with Tim.

So on to this morning. I'm sitting at my desk after my coffee and I log onto the forum to see if there is anything new on here that "I must have". After looking around I go to my messages and I see my PMs to Tim from yesterday. I know I made mistakes and I'm still making mistakes as I get used to the forum. This is the first forum that I have ever joined. So I decided to email Tim and give him another shot. I tried to look for the Post for the Medford, just to read it once more before I emailed Tim. So I went back to my PMs found his user name then went on his profile, looked up his latest posts to find the one on the Medford ( like I said I'm new to forums and this is the only way I know how to do this ) and I discover this whole new Post dedicated to me.

I really do not write much on these posts, I just come on for a few minutes whenever I have a chance.
It's hard to find the time between running a business and coming home to my wonderful wife and 2 beautiful girls who always have something planned for us to do (it's called having a life Tim). But, I had to respond to this post.
Shit, it's about me.

I'm sorry for going on for so long, but I had to make the most of the first post ever written about me.

Tony Llovet
 
No $$ exchanged hands==Nothing here but a bit of LIFE happens stuff..
Good for all parties too clear the air..
 
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