SNARK!!! The Herald Angels Singing

[Hunter Sharp]

Just be glad your not in southern CA. I hate my life! Lol

 

[Chameleonbear]

Yeah, we don't have fires every frickin' year!

 

[Qeth]

Hope you folk in windy country are doing well. I was just about to complain about some harsh wind last night, but it's no where near tornado strength. More like monsoon type, with the rain and all.

Tangent, I'm debating if I should buy more accessories for my rimfire, or buy a big boy rifle. More magazines, new scope and/ or new stock vs picking up something in .223/5.56. Was eyeing a mini-14. Spike's Tactical also has complete rifles for decent prices as well. Decisions, decisions.

 

[tradewater]

If you've got a good place to shoot, the working up handloads, tinkering and tuning is sure fun with a centerfire.

 

[Moosez45]

If you've got a good place to shoot, the working up handloads, tinkering and tuning is sure fun with a centerfire.

By God, ain't that the truth.

Moose

 

[crimsonfalcon07]

Mini-14 is a sweet gun. I'd be more inclined to get an M4 variant though, just because you can customize those so heavily. Maybe put a MK12 mod 0 style handguard on.

 

[Psyop]

Windy as all get out today. I had a 3ft diameter dead tree blow down in the corner of my place. Maybe I should go hack it up with my 9 lol

 

[Qeth]

One con on the AR that has me hesitating: I'd have to slap a bullet button (or a ridiculous grip) on it. Which brings me more in favor of the Mini-14 at the cost of accuracy... although one could get it accurized for a pretty penny. But at that point, one would have thrown down enough money for a tricked out AR instead of getting the 14 ~MOA/ sub MOA. But then again, I'm not that great of a shot (yet!), so the stock accuracy of a mini 14 should be ok... for now.

Ah, life be stressful

 

[crimsonfalcon07]

Oh noes. If you want to avoid the dilemma, you could always just buy Beckers. Or buy Beckers and send them to me

 

[1066vik]

Hope you folk in windy country are doing well. I was just about to complain about some harsh wind last night, but it's no where near tornado strength. More like monsoon type, with the rain and all.

Tangent, I'm debating if I should buy more accessories for my rimfire, or buy a big boy rifle. More magazines, new scope and/ or new stock vs picking up something in .223/5.56. Was eyeing a mini-14. Spike's Tactical also has complete rifles for decent prices as well. Decisions, decisions.

Got lucky here -- storm tracked 20 miles South of Topeka rather than 20 mile North...
Co-worker not so lucky. F2 wiped half her little town off the map, including her house & her hubby's farm truck.

One con on the AR that has me hesitating: I'd have to slap a bullet button (or a ridiculous grip) on it. Which brings me more in favor of the Mini-14 at the cost of accuracy... although one could get it accurized for a pretty penny. But at that point, one would have thrown down enough money for a tricked out AR instead of getting the 14 ~MOA/ sub MOA. But then again, I'm not that great of a shot (yet!), so the stock accuracy of a mini 14 should be ok... for now.

Ah, life be stressful

the Mini is a blast to shoot -- there are cheap things you can do to it to improve accuracy/reduce the tendency towards "spaghetti barrel".

 

[Moosez45]

the Mini is a blast to shoot -- there are cheap things you can do to it to improve accuracy/reduce the tendency towards "spaghetti barrel".

I agree, but why? That's what has kept me from getting one after all these years. Inaccurate guns, drive me up the wall, and once you spend the time and money to tune them into a good weapon, you could have went with something else, and saved that money for ammo.

I have found a good substitute for the AR/Mini 14, is the Keltec SU-16. Those things are awesome, weigh next to nothing and shoot AR mags. And they work. Well.

I prefer bolts, but my kind of shooting is quite different than most AR shooting going on.

Gimme that Remington 700 or that Howa 1500, Baby, gimme the bolt.

Moose

 

[1066vik]

For me, it's the fact that I do not like the AR platform and have hated it since the first time i did a military qualification on an M-16.
I understand they have improved over the years, but there are still things about the platform I don't like.
The mini 14 works well, has acceptable accuracy for what i use a semi-auto for, and isn't made of tactical tupperware.
Nothing wrong with the SU-16 from what I've heard, but I've never had a chance to shoot one.

OTOH, I agree that the Howa's are a great value fo quality rifle.

 

[Bladite]

Does anyone have the sheath for a 3 they are looking to get rid of (traded for cash of course) I just got one and it doesn't come with a sheath, but this is gonna be kept in my car, so it is hard to rationalize getting a Sky work of art for it...

buy the off brand spec ops, fits perfectly

or just make a simple one good project.

 

[Bladite]

For me, it's the fact that I do not like the AR platform and have hated it since the first time i did a military qualification on an M-16.
I understand they have improved over the years, but there are still things about the platform I don't like.
The mini 14 works well, has acceptable accuracy for what i use a semi-auto for, and isn't made of tactical tupperware.
Nothing wrong with the SU-16 from what I've heard, but I've never had a chance to shoot one.

OTOH, I agree that the Howa's are a great value fo quality rifle.

there's enough OTHER rifles out there that shoot cartridges you want, without having to go to a platform you do not like, often for cheap...

7.62x39 is fun, and cheap, $200 per 1000 for local pickup in my area for non-corrosive. sweet. but i do NOT like most AKs. generally not accurate either. solution: PTR-32

5.56/2.23? plenty of choices. bolts to semi-autos. even swiss

5.7? well, the best non FN choice is a AR platform, go figure

7.62x51? man, so many choices... PTR-91 is a good one. FAL. many more.

and .22LR, omg, so many choices.

 

[Qeth]

Got lucky here -- storm tracked 20 miles South of Topeka rather than 20 mile North...
Co-worker not so lucky. F2 wiped half her little town off the map, including her house & her hubby's farm truck.



the Mini is a blast to shoot -- there are cheap things you can do to it to improve accuracy/reduce the tendency towards "spaghetti barrel".

Damn, that sucks about the house and truck! Does she have insurance to cover it?

Uh oh, "spaghetti barrel"? I better look that up. Is it an issue with the newer (post 2005), more accurate versions as well?

EDIT: The heavier barreled, 581XXXX serial numbers (the newer ones) + Har-Bar struts, anyone have experience with both?

 

[Moosez45]

Damn, that sucks about the house and truck! Does she have insurance to cover it?

Uh oh, "spaghetti barrel"? I better look that up. Is it an issue with the newer (post 2005), more accurate versions as well?

EDIT: The heavier barreled, 581XXXX serial numbers (the newer ones) + Har-Bar struts, anyone have experience with both?

Its just a flaw in the design. Barrel rebounds off the stock, barrel whip. No way to float it, and unless you can make it whip the same way everytime, its not going to be accurate. That big ass, dumb looking compensator on the "target" model, is there as a harmonic resonance dissipator, basically, weights the barrel down to where it rebounds the same way. Know what? It don't work.

Moose

 

[Qeth]

Its just a flaw in the design. Barrel rebounds off the stock, barrel whip. No way to float it, and unless you can make it whip the same way everytime, its not going to be accurate. That big ass, dumb looking compensator on the "target" model, is there as a harmonic resonance dissipator, basically, weights the barrel down to where it rebounds the same way. Know what? It don't work.

Moose

Hot diggity. Thanks for the info.

 

[Bladite]

i was looking into a mini-30, but read about all the various issues with the whole design, so i skipped it.

 

[Moosez45]

Hot diggity. Thanks for the info.

I like Ruger firearms, check that, I love Ruger firearms, but the Mini 14/30/Ranch/Gunsite all suck. I've shot all of them, and I want them to be accurate so bad, because those are the platforms I love more than the AR.

I want them to work so bad, but it take so much work and parts to make it happen, I could build a 1/2"MOA bolt for the same price.

Damn.

Moose

 

[Murphnuge]

Got a Junglas in the mail today. I'm gonna love this blade, but it smells funny for some reason .....