SnG Progress.

I've had a few issues with Strider folders. Mainly a few AR's and SnG's. I avoided Strider folders for awhile, but now I own 2 current-generation SMF's and both came perfect, and have seen hard use on duty, all without any problems. I have learned that the QC can be sketchy on some pieces at times, but it will be made right quickly if you send'em in. The SMF has become my EDC second to-none right now, and I find it fits my hand near perfectly. Next up is going to be a Nightmare SMF of one sorts or another and 2 of their new (fng?) folder.
 
benchmademan said:
i can see why you're a fan of the Sebenza... i owned one and it was a great knife (although the small was alittle too small for me). if it weren't for the SnG i think i'd have bought a large. but i discovered that the SnG was the Maybach to your Mercedes... not sure what the wood seats and square wheels were refering to... but if you are a fan of the Manix then i'm not sure what you could complain about with a Strider. but hey, it's just knives we're talking about. i'm glad you have the opportunity to carry whatever you want and you should excersize the right to do so. i only speak up because i don't get what's not to like about a Strider. i've got three and love them all. there nothing square or wood about that... just sharp and built like a tank.

I'm not complaining about the knife per se, I actually quite like the shape. What I do object to is that, given its cost I would have hoped that whomever does the QC would take a look at it an say 'Humm, not sure about this one, lets give it a final buff to even up the grinds, or Dayum! That blade is a tight as a crabs behind, its ready to ship" The lack of this is especially vexing to someone who is out of the US, has spent over US$100 for shipping and tax and finds a problem with it that a blind man on a flying horse, jumping through a hedgerow at night could spot. The guys say, "oh, man we're sorry, send her right in and we will make it right'. While this is applaudable, what isn't, is the fact that it left the shop in this condition in the first place. Now, before fuses blow, I know that nothing is going to be made without a dud now and then, but grinds being uneven is unacceptable and any knife nut would spot it in a second.

For the cost I would expect a bit more, just because its meant to be used roughly does not automatically mean that it has to have all the refinement of Russian tractor gearbox. :D
 
Temper, I was going to say the same thing. I have a PT coming to me (Plaza Cutlery selling them for $50 off so I couldn't resist!) and it should be here today. I've held one SnG and had an AR in the passaround here, so I really can't comment on the QC from personal perspective, yet, but for production knives that are this expensive, I'm also puzzled about why they don't have tighter QC. It's not like the majority of these issues are tough to see. Detents that don't work, uneven blades or grinds, stripped threads on screws, etc are the kinds of things you HEAR about regularly (although this could be regurgitation of the same story!). Strider has a loyal following despite that. It seems to me it would be in their best interest to put a guy on QC and set some standards for themselves and really try to achieve a more consistent product as it leaves their factory. It's great that they'll fix stuff when you send it in, but I don't see why they're resistant to putting standards and checks in place that won't REQUIRE you to send the knife in in the first place! :confused:

I wonder if they're growing faster than they can handle, possibly? I've been curious lately about the production at Strider. It's tough to find an internet dealer that doesn't stock their knives, whether folder or fixed blade, and a lot of them have special runs of knives (Plaza has a recurved PT, for example, TAD has the TAD versions, etc), etc. Maybe they're choosing to let QC issues slide in exchange for getting the product out quickly and making $$$.
 
When you get a perfect strider w/ no bladeplay.. its he best knife IMO hands down. Its frustrating when you get one with a little play and youve spent that much money ( I dont WANT to send it in!!) Its kinda pushed me away from strider folders to be quite honest - but I do miss my last sng gen 6 that was perfect in every way, I should have never sold that one! I've been looking to get another recently .. oh boy
 
Chiro75 said:
It seems to me it would be in their best interest to put a guy on QC and set some standards for themselves and really try to achieve a more consistent product as it leaves their factory. It's great that they'll fix stuff when you send it in, but I don't see why they're resistant to putting standards and checks in place that won't REQUIRE you to send the knife in in the first place! :confused:

I wonder if they're growing faster than they can handle, possibly? I've been curious lately about the production at Strider. It's tough to find an internet dealer that doesn't stock their knives, whether folder or fixed blade, and a lot of them have special runs of knives (Plaza has a recurved PT, for example, TAD has the TAD versions, etc), etc. Maybe they're choosing to let QC issues slide in exchange for getting the product out quickly and making $$$.
I think there is much merit in what you say.

I bought mine mainly because it was part of my knife buying strategy which, in part, means buying a folder from different "categories" and the SnG fell into one of them. Also I just happened to like the look of the thing. As it turns out I've come to really like the knife, despite the current niggling annoyance that has developed. My Sebenza certainly has better F&F and QC but the SnG is much better than I expected after reading about all the problems they are supposed to have.

Would I buy another one? I'm not entirely certain at this point but, quite possibly.

I would suggest that the Strider guys are not that concerned about QC simply because the knives sell extremely well despite any real or perceived problems with them, and at very high prices, so why should they spend money on QC!

In the end, it doesn't really matter, if you like them you're going to buy them, if you think they're a POS then you won't. Everyone is happy and who cares?
 
I would recommend sending it BACK to Strider for repair. It should NOT be doing that!!! I had a brand new PT, and it did the same thing. I sent it back to Strider, and they couldn't repair it, so they sent me another new one. I only had it for a week, I think,(it could have only been a few days), and back it went!!
 
TheKnifeCollector said:
I would recommend sending it BACK to Strider for repair. It should NOT be doing that!!! I had a brand new PT, and it did the same thing. I sent it back to Strider, and they couldn't repair it, so they sent me another new one. I only had it for a week, I think,(it could have only been a few days), and back it went!!
Not an option unless as a last resort. It would cost me around $30 in shipping charges which, admittedly, is not that much but I would also not have it for up to 6 weeks PLUS whatever time Strider had it for. As well as that it would have to go through customs again and, frankly, I don't trust them.
 
Gajinoz, did you resolve this problem on the Badlands forum? Someone discussed an identical problem there and it sounded like it was all taken care of... Anyway, in your situation, you could try taking it to a machine shop and show them the knife and the problem. Theoretically they could drill the hole out (and the pocket clip) and retap it for a larger size screw, then sand it flush with the inside of the frame/scale. It would probably void your warranty completely because they'd have to take the knife apart, but it's a thought.

I just bought a PT (maybe it'll be here today. I expected it yesterday and I HATE to wait!) from Plaza Cutlery. I was given the choice between ones that look better (better, deeper stamps in the blade) or ones with tighter action that would require some break in. I could care less about the blade markings because everyone knows a Strider is a Strider, so I asked for one with good mechanics. So, I'm pretty anxious to see what I end up with!

As far as quality control goes, it's EXTREMELY frustrating that they don't do a better job with it. With the exception of the occasional "overpriced" and "uncomfortable" arguments, by far the biggest complaint about their knives is the QC. I think there is a fair # of people who don't buy their knives for that reason. They should be making $$$ hand over fist right now, so I can't see how QC control could be anything but a fantastic investment for the future. :confused:
 
Chiro75 said:
Gajinoz, did you resolve this problem on the Badlands forum? Someone discussed an identical problem there and it sounded like it was all taken care of... Anyway, in your situation, you could try taking it to a machine shop and show them the knife and the problem.
I might wander over there and have a chat about it. I'm not really ready to start pulling it apart and doing anything drastic with it just yet. The "problem" really is nothing more than a minor annoyance and only then when I start fiddling with the knife. When I'm using it I don't even notice it. What I will probably do if it gets any worse is take it apart and grind a fraction off the end of the lock bar so it sits flush with the end of the blade when it's open. I suspect this will fix the problem. Us dumb farm boys can be pretty handy with tools. :)
 
G'day Gaj,
Would like to offer my services to help you fix your SNG problems.

Since you are apprehensive about sending the knife on another world tour, what I suggest is that you send it to myself, here in Perth, where I can utilise my knife repair skills to fix it for you. I will post you a replacement knife to use until I have completely restored the SNG, which would probably take a month or so.

The bellow pic shows the high tech sophistication of tools that I have at my disposal and the replacement knife, a near new in original plastic bag, genuine 440 made in china. I think this knife has rare collectors appeal and I am prepared to trade you for the SNG if I can't repair it.





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Jokes aside, hope you get it sorted out mate.
 
Stockman said:
The bellow pic shows the high tech sophistication of tools that I have at my disposal and the replacement knife, a near new in original plastic bag, genuine 440 made in china. I think this knife has rare collectors appeal and I am prepared to trade you for the SNG if I can't repair it.
You're a real mate Stockman. Nice knife you have there, I'd feel bad about taking it away from you. ;)
 
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