So how do you ship a gun?

To eliminate the possibility of becoming someones prison b*tch, check with either a local gun dealer, or ATFE office.

Your best bet is to ship FFL to FFL. That way, everything is kosh.

I am amazed at the ignorance of some of these responses. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :( :(
 
Blue Jays said:
Good Evening All-

Technically speaking, mailing a firearm in multiple pieces as "machined metal construction parts" might not adhere to the letter of the law, but who is ripping open the sealed overnight boxes during that twenty-four hour period? They still are machined metal parts, after all.

I say reduce the hassle and send him the pistol in three boxes via three different overnight shipping companies. It is the poster's brother, so I would tend towards any solution that would eliminate difficulties and let him enjoy his Christmas gift. I've sent firearms to companies for recoating and repair and they have sent them back to me at my office with no problems at all. It seems that the government has successfully caused many citizens to feel very apprehensive with regard to firearms.

No flames intended, so no flames in return, please. Just trying to obtain a solution that keeps everyone happy.

~ Blue Jays ~

I'm not trying to start an argument, but I don't want anyone downplaying the consequences of getting caught. It only has to happen once. If your convicted, not only could you face prison time you will be a felon and lose your right to own guns for the rest of your life.
Your dealing with combinations of state and federal laws so there is the possibility of multiple charges for the same offense.

So one more time, I suggest you do yourself a favor and take him to buy the gun the next time you see him, or have the FFL you buy the gun from ship it to a california FFL.
 
E___WOK is absolutely correct. Kalifornia will not allow the importation of any firearms that are not on their approved list. I can't even buy a used firearm from out of state through an FFL licensed dealer if its not on the list. And the list changes all the time.

The only exceptions are pistols over 50 years old. They are considered curios/antiques - apparently because the people who administer the lists think that anything that old must be a flintlock.
 
Hi Matt Shade-

No problem at all and no offense taken with regard to your well-grounded advice. I'm also assuming you were making these suggestions to Triton, the originator of the thread.

Regards,
~ Blue Jays ~
 
Yep, I was making the suggestions to triton.
But I want everyone to know the law. Lack of information is what has gotten us to where we are today. If more peope knew what stupid laws their congressman was voting for, there would be less stupid congressman getting re-elected :)
 
What a pain in the tail all of this is. Thanks for the information guys. I hear the drive to California is nice...
 
Hi Triton-

If you're considering a cross-country roadtrip, you'll find plenty of interesting reading at www.packing.org for advice, suggestions, and laws. The site was down recently, but should be back up again soon.

Not to get on a soapbox, but this is where the states would help residents and visitors by cross-honoring firearm requirements of other states. This acceptance is why a Texas motor vehicle operator license is valid in Pennsylvania, for example. Merry Christmas to your brother!

~ Blue Jays ~
 
I know in some states, if you get caught with a handgun in your car its automatic jail time. Hypothetically, what do you do if you are moving? I guess technically I would be breaking the law if I had my guns in the uhaul in the back driving through Mass to get to another state to live, but there logically has to be a way to be able to move.
 
Blue Jays said:
Hi Triton-

If you're considering a cross-country roadtrip, you'll find plenty of interesting reading at www.packing.org for advice, suggestions, and laws. The site was down recently, but should be back up again soon.

Not to get on a soapbox, but this is where the states would help residents and visitors by cross-honoring firearm requirements of other states. This acceptance is why a Texas motor vehicle operator license is valid in Pennsylvania, for example. Merry Christmas to your brother!

~ Blue Jays ~

:) Thanks Blue Jays!
 
Shann said:
I know in some states, if you get caught with a handgun in your car its automatic jail time. Hypothetically, what do you do if you are moving? I guess technically I would be breaking the law if I had my guns in the uhaul in the back driving through Mass to get to another state to live, but there logically has to be a way to be able to move.
Depends on the state, and it's not so easy to get the info. Obviously, no LEO is gonna be impressed when you tell him that "the NRA (or whatever) website said it's legal...."

I moved a couple of times with handguns, and it is a pain. When I moved form NY to MA, I called the state patrol (or whichever agency was responsible) in NY, CT, RI, and MA. NY wasn't a problem (had a CCW premit) nor was MA (I know it's hard to believe) Nor was RI. Just the standard stuff. Pistols taken down, locked in box, locked in trunk. The usual. Now we come down to CT. I spoke to someone in the State Police office. I was transferred to this individual by the switchboard when I explained my question. This individual told me that under no circumstances would this be legal. Even if diassembled, in the trunk, etc. I asked what a New Yorker on the way to a New England hunting trip would do, and I was told "use a rifle". I was told that of course I could risk it, but if I were pulled over and searched under these circumstances it would mean a felony and jail time. Now I don't know if she know what she was talking about or not, but I decided to avoid CT altogether, and add a little time to the trip, because I couldn't risk it.

Yep, I am still irritated. And I have no intention of ever vacationing or doing any travelling to CT except on the way to somewhere else. (not that anyone cares).

Aside from pointless ranting, I am giving Triton a concrete example of why driving with a handgun could also be dangerous (in the legal sense). I am not sure if the poor guy understands. He lives in a place with civilized gun laws, and he probably doesn't understand that other states are not as advanced in government as Alabama :)
 
So how do you get your pistol home from the store in CT? I don't whats more pathetic, the fact that it may be true and you can't transport a handgun in your car in CT, or the fact that some ******* working the phone gets to push thier anti gun agenda off on the folks they are suppose to be helping :grumpy:
 
The US Congress passed a law in the late 80's to early 90's putting an end to this kind of state to state BS. Basically, if you are transporting a firearm through a state and it's legal on both ends of the trip, the states in the middle can't pull this kind of bs on you. Check the NRA web site, I'm sure that this is referenced. All the applicable precautions (unloaded, cased, etc) have to be followed.

Caution is one thing, but paralysis is another. I wouldn't hesitate (and haven't) to travel with a firearm if need be.
 
shaldag said:
Depends on the state, and it's not so easy to get the info. Obviously, no LEO is gonna be impressed when you tell him that "the NRA (or whatever) website said it's legal...."

I moved a couple of times with handguns, and it is a pain. When I moved form NY to MA, I called the state patrol (or whichever agency was responsible) in NY, CT, RI, and MA. NY wasn't a problem (had a CCW premit) nor was MA (I know it's hard to believe) Nor was RI. Just the standard stuff. Pistols taken down, locked in box, locked in trunk. The usual. Now we come down to CT. I spoke to someone in the State Police office. I was transferred to this individual by the switchboard when I explained my question. This individual told me that under no circumstances would this be legal. Even if diassembled, in the trunk, etc. I asked what a New Yorker on the way to a New England hunting trip would do, and I was told "use a rifle". I was told that of course I could risk it, but if I were pulled over and searched under these circumstances it would mean a felony and jail time. Now I don't know if she know what she was talking about or not, but I decided to avoid CT altogether, and add a little time to the trip, because I couldn't risk it.

Yep, I am still irritated. And I have no intention of ever vacationing or doing any travelling to CT except on the way to somewhere else. (not that anyone cares).

Aside from pointless ranting, I am giving Triton a concrete example of why driving with a handgun could also be dangerous (in the legal sense). I am not sure if the poor guy understands. He lives in a place with civilized gun laws, and he probably doesn't understand that other states are not as advanced in government as Alabama :)

LOL and most people think that we are backward down here... Gosh I'm glad I live in the South.
 
Very interesting read..thanks guys.

(in the UK you can't even carry a toothpick without a licence :D )
 
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