So I discovered biggest tactical disadvantage with liner lock system vs BM Axis Lock

D

darthwayne

Joined
Oct 7, 2016
Messages
152
So I chipped my right thumbnail while chopping vegetables with my 7 inch santoku knife. That VG10 steel is sharp!

I was just sitting on the couch and playing with my kershaw link with liner lock

older pic of knife:
D0Wr0zG.jpg



I noticed it was very painful and difficult and almost impossible to disengage liner lock if your thumb or thumbnail area is injured.

While in case of my Benchmade Griptilian, There are so many ways to open and close it. plus if my finger is injured or nail is chipped, i can always use the other hand as its ambidextrous.

This is big tactical advantage for quick draw in a pocket knife.

BM 551
M9r84eG.jpg



Benchmade's are worth the money just because of quality of their materials and Axis lock. Its like macbook where you pay for peace of mind and the awesome smooth trackpad which makes navigating very easy.
 
Hmm well I guess if I have a hang nail ill be sure to carry a benchmade so I have the tactical advantage
 
i try to avoid linerlocks these days, i mostly just want to buy knives that are backlocks. buttonlocks and axis locks are nice too. i wish more knife companies would start moving away from linerlocks and framelocks.
 
Last edited:
I'm glad the OP is happy with his knife, and wish his right thumbnail a speedy recovery :).

Maybe its just me, but all my linerlocks can be manipulated easily with either hand. Honest question, do most people really find them that hard to close with their off hand?
 
Last edited:
I wish I found Benchmade's worth the money. They have a lot of attractive designs but they are so hit or miss I wouldn't buy one sight unseen.
 
I hate Mac and Benchmade but I carry Glock, I think I am set with tactical advantage...


Russ
 
Very true OP. I sliced the tip of my thumb once and it became clear it was not only hard to open my knives but close my linerlocks as well.
 
I don't dispute that closing a liner/frame lock can be painful with a busted finger. I've dealt with it before on the job site.

However, I wouldn't consider this a "tactical disadvantage" when it comes to needing to draw the knife. I would think that if tactics came into play "deployment" would be the issue. (I really hate that mall ninja term, btw)

I'm not too concerned how quickly I need to close my knife if it is an emergency. I'm not just talking about a self defense situation. If I had to quickly use my knife to cut myself free from my seat belt in a car wreck, I wouldn't be worrying about closing the knife. I would probably drop it and scramble out asap.

Closing a liner lock/frame lock (especially a cheapie) can be down right difficult if white knuckling the grip has wedged the lock too far to the other side.

Still, 90% of my carry knives are of that variety. It's never been a big enough issue for me to find something else.

Actually, lock type and "stength" isn't usually a big issue for my knife purchase. If it locks up tight, I'm good with it.
 
The Axis is BM's bread and butter. And rightfully so. Great lock (although I wouldn't mind a beefier set of Omega springs be used these days).

And , for the most part , I don't feel that BM's are worth their price tag. Just overpriced for what they deliver. Especially some of their Gold Class offerings. Like that 707-161 , nice but worth $1020 ? Haha I think not (IMO). I've also found their QC to be inconsistent. Some are great. Some are awful.

I can see how the OP's injury would deter him from liner locks until he's healed. But I do not see how there is any tactical disadvantage while he's on the mend. Closing the knife has nothing to do with quick draw time.
 
I think the biggest "tactical disadvantage" is the injury itself. Any injury, really...

-Brett
 
I am one of the few who actually prefer liner to frame-locks, because 1) both scales are presentation sides 2) I don't inadvertently squeeze the lock bar when opening the knife.

I have never had a problem with liner lock failure, but most of my knives are gentlemen's and the hardest use is cutting cardboard or fruit.
 
As long as this is a "tactical disadvantage" then I am all good....

I can live with loosing the "tactical edge" to my EDC tasks, I never felt that threatened by a cardboard box anyway.
 
I have defeated all cardboard boxes, but those plastic clamshell containers, that is another story. I have an old (but excellent and sturdy) ZT frame lock that does battle with those indestructible clamshells. :)

JR88FAN said:
As long as this is a "tactical disadvantage" then I am all good....

I can live with loosing the "tactical edge" to my EDC tasks, I never felt that threatened by a cardboard box anyway.
Click to expand...
 
Locutus D'Borg said:
I have defeated all cardboard boxes, but those plastic clamshell containers, that is another story. I have an old (but excellent and sturdy) ZT frame lock that does battle with those indestructible clamshells. :)
Click to expand...

It's not that old haha

How's sunny California treating you?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top