So I got my first folder....

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First let me express my thanks to everyone who posted suggestions earlier this month - I really learned a lot and got some great ideas. A helpful bunch you are!

Anyway, BEFORE I found bladeforums.com I went on Ebay and bid on a couple of knives. Anyone who buys watches (and I'm sure other things) on Ebay knows that if you bid the lowest amount with anything more than an hour left in the auction, you will most certainly be outbid. I do this becuase ebay keeps track of all the auctions you're bidding on - makes it a lot easier to go back and find stuff, or to sort through the ones I like again and actually try to win the ones I want. So I did this with a number of knives, but it turns out, I was the only bidder on one and high bidder on another. This is the first time (and second) that I've been burned with this method - after hundreds of bids.

As fate would have it (some relation to Murphy's Law?) neither of these were the knives I strongly wished to own after I found bladeforums. Now, I'm not displeased, in fact, I'm very happy with what I got, it's just that they're not what ended up being my top choices.

FWIW, I really liked the suggestions for the M2 AFCK, and the REKAT Pioneer. I probably will get one of these eventually, but for now I'm happy with my BM 840SBT and 835SBT.

The 840 came first, and was a bit bigger than I was expecting (yes, get thee to a knife store/show - I hear you). My one gripe is the Zytel handle. I'm sure it's tough, and it's definitely light, but it has that cheap plastic look/feel to it. I think it makes the knife look a little cheaper. It was quite sharp however - I managed to cut myself 6 times (4 of which happened when I closed it on my fingers). It would slice the hair off my arm without hesitating. I've had it about a week, and I've used it only a few times, and already it's not as sharp as it was. One other aspect is that I don't think this knife falls favorably in the eyes of the general public. I was hosting a party and needed to cut open a bag of chicken wings - I whipped out the knife and got a whole bunch of, "whoa, Mark! take it easy. We're all friends here...." Sarcastic, but you get the point.

The other one came yesterday. I don't know what's up with this one. I like the blade a lot better - drop point, thumb knobs instead of the hole, smaller - but it's a little weird. I can't open it with one hand - it gets a little tight between say, 60-90% of being open. This one's also not as sharp as the other. It'll make a nice gift.

FWIW - my fiancee has expressed interest in my old Gerber multitool - and I've decided that my next multi will be the new SAK 'cybertool' since I'm a serious computer dork and that's what I use my Gerber for 90% of the time. The pen is probably the selling factor though - I've been caught without a pen way too many times recently. Any other similar options out there?

Thanks again for all the help - it is much appreciated.

-MarkZ

 
I don't like Zytel handles either and have never bought any. However, I think the blade "tension" (actually the clamping force on the blade due to the tightness of the pivot bolt) is adjustable on all Benchmades. It sounds like you need to loosen up on the pivot of the second knife. I could be wrong about the lockback series bing adustable. Assuming its adjustable you will need a torx driver to loosen it. Loosen it up to the point that you have lateral wobble then tighten to where there is no wobble.

Hope this helps.
 
As far as your problem child goes; I'm not familiar with the drop point, thumb stud version of the Ascent, but I am familiar with the holed, clip point version. The ones I've seen have a similar problem to yours. When new, the blade gets tight 60%-90% of the way open. This tightnes is caused by the shape of the tang. It should go away after repeated opening and closing of the blade, as this wears down the tang slightly and allows smoother opening. It may take a couple of weeks or even months to break it in, but the problem should correct itself eventually. If not, you could send it to Benchmade and they can grind it down a bit. You can adjust the pivot some and see if that helps, but I don't think that's the problem.
 
I love Zytel. It can be molded into very comfortable and ergonomic shapes(sorta makes you wonder why most manufacturers don't), it is light and much stronger than most people realize. I would love to see a number of knives currently manufactured with the metal liner and flat G-10 slab construction replace the G-10 slabs with a nice contoured Zytel outer handle similar to what Emerson does with the Raven. That's a great handle. Same with the Gerber Covert.
 
Wish I'd known ahead of time you were going to get a BM840SBT. I would have warned you about the closing!
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This is actually my current carry. It's an awfully nice knife for the price bracket it's in. The only thing I don't like about it is the closing. Not a bad knife for your first folder.
 
i don't mind the zytel at all, but the BM Ascent really isn't up to the higher quality you see in the AFCK or Axis. I thought it was OK, that is until I bought a Spyderco Endura. Now the Ascent feels like a cheap POS. The Endura lockup and the feel of the handle is worth the extra couple bucks.

I haven't used the thumb-stud version of the Ascent though... My only experience is with the ones with the Spyderco holes.
 
Here's a scan of the drop point, thumb stud 835SBT - I think it's the same as the 830SBT except for the blade.

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Best,

-MarkZ
 
Break down & get a Commander! You will be glad you did...
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Attila
 
Mark,
You didn't do bad for your first knives. I got money that says most of us on this forum bought knives that we wish we hadn't a few days after buying them. We've got clunkers too! I have a number of those $8 Irish knifes from the harware store I use for loaners and beaters.

Don't sell zytel short. Its tough, and sometimes when you're in a suit for those special occasions, a nice light zytel folder carries real nice.

If you ask real nice I'll bet Mike Sastre will make you up a neck sheath for those blades too! -Brian
 
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