So... Is Spyderco, ZT, Hinderer etc - NOT A KNIFE ?! something is wrong with 5.11...

yes. 1. thick. 2 soft. it is very good for what a man carries inside his pants and not for pants itself.
'll try tac pro, heard much good 'bout it. thanks. anyway, more pockets in pants wouldn't ever bother me, to carry as much as i could...
 
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