So let’s talk cqc 6 clones

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I know vary little about them, I do know every one stopped because earnest asked the custom makers to stop making them, but I am curious about some things and hoping to find the info.

Did the 6 clones use 7 blades ?

Where new liners made or was the 7 liner modified ?

If the 6 clone did not use a 7 blade was a new blade made ?

I am just curious since I am doing all this bolster work for my knives I sometimes am so curious to know how the 6 handle would feel in the hand with its straight handle and boat tail rear I bet it feels so cool
 
All the ones i owned had stock 7A or 7B blades. Washers grip screws and pivots were the only remaining stock parts to be used. Liners....grips...bolsters...detents all had to be made from scratch.
 
The best ones in my opinion are those made from a Super Raven. See center knife in picture. Top knife is Phil Bruckerhoof made BM 975, middle is Bill Yester "CQC-6", bottom is Andrew Charlet made CQC-7.
 

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Murindo said:
The best ones in my opinion are those made from a Super Raven. See center knife in picture. Top knife is Phil Bruckerhoof made BM 975, middle is Bill Yester "CQC-6", bottom is Andrew Charlet made CQC-7.
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Ya I want that 6 boat tail style handle but I have no idea how to cut the lock bar out or the 2nd detention bar
 
If you do make a "CQC-6" it should be for personal use only and not resale.
 
^ That goes without saying... and can you post a bigger pic? My eyesight is good, but that's some serious fine-print on those blades.
 
Is Mr. Emerson asking modders to stop making them because he plans on making a large run of CQC-6's which will be available to all of us who want one and can't seem to win the lottery and get lucky enough to buy at his price? Because I sure want one and hope he does a large run for all of us. I would want a CQC-6 either way. Modded or from Emerson. Just not a marked up CQC-6 from the secondary market prices.

It seems to me that he is making less and less of the CQC-6 models. This last Christmas lottery (which I enetered but was not chosen) only had 2 of them and all the other knives in the lottery were different styles. Yet what people always choose first and WANT is the CQC-6. bUt with the online lottery you can't choose which style knife you want. So it is literally like winning the lottery to (A) win a knife and (B) then you get lucky enough that it IS the coveted CQC-6 model
 
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If I was a modder I would not stop making 6's. I would be respectful and not mod them and openly sell them, but if contracted by an end consumer that supplies the knife then I'd absolutely fill the order. If said end customer wanted more then one I'd be weary and do some more du-diligence.

Supply and demand. If EKI wants modders to stop then the solution is simple: meet the demand.

It's not like modded 6's are flawless copies so I don't see the harm. The blades still show markings of their original models. There is no loss in sales due to modded 6's in the secondary market as supply is so limited in real 6's. If anything sales only stands to increase due to purchases of donor knives to be modded into 6 clones.

I'm not even a big 6 fan, I prefer the 7. But this is akin to iPhone not allowing you to simply drag/drop your own media into the phone or use non-approved apps (without hacking the phone). Who are they to tell me what to do with my own property? If I want to shoot my iphone with a shotgun then that's my business... and that's exactly what I did with it, I blew it to Hell! .. Android all the way.
 
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mt666tm said:
If I was a modder I would not stop making 6's. I would be respectful and not mod them and openly sell them, but if contracted by an end consumer that supplies the knife then I'd absolutely fill the order. If said end customer wanted more then one I'd be weary and do some more du-diligence.

Supply and demand. If EKI wants modders to stop then the solution is simple: meet the demand.

It's not like modded 6's are flawless copies so I don't see the harm. The blades still show markings of their original models. There is no loss in sales due to modded 6's in the secondary market as supply is so limited in real 6's. If anything sales only stands to increase due to purchases of donor knives to be modded into 6 clones.

I'm not even a big 6 fan, I prefer the 7. But this is akin to iPhone not allowing you to simply drag/drop your own media into the phone or use non-approved apps (without hacking the phone). Who are they to tell me what to do with my own property? If I want to shoot my iphone with a shotgun then that's my business... and that's exactly what I did with it, I blew it to Hell! .. Android all the way.
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I fully agree!

I understand the mentality behind Ernest's request. The 6 is his property and he's making it as exclusive as possible.

On the other hand, that's bullshit in practice. The real 6's are going to be affected exactly zero by any po boy sales. Since it's more or less impossible to deliberately purchase your own 6 for personal use, its retarded that I can't pay a private maker to mod my 7 into a "6-like object."

No one is making money off any intellectual property because THE END RESULT IS NOT A 6.

So it's OK for makers to make me a pickle shaped handle for my 7? But if it looks like a boat, it's suddenly a "clone??"

Gimme a break.

I want a six, but I will never get one unless I win the powerball lottery, knife lottery, and then the odds lottery that lands me the 6 instead of a roadhouse or whatever.

So why shouldn't we have access to the next closest thing? Not like it's gonna make a guy stop wanting the real deal...

Hell, it'll make a guy want it more, if anything.

Geez dood....
 
Well this is going to put more money into the pockets of those who have real CQC-6. This is great news for them! Since now that Emerson is asking modders to stop making Po Boys the owners of the real 6's just make another few hundered bucks in profits (without any real work involved OR efforts) by being LUCKY enough to win the lottery.

Either way,.. someone is making profits. Either those who already own a CQC-6 will increase the value of the current CQC-6 in circulation for the secondary market OR those that choose to continue to make a PO boy CQC-6 out of a CQC-7 blade with the diedaidn and being on Mr. Emersons shit list.

All seems unfair to me as I would buy one from Emerson if he made one for me. But I can't. Now I can't buy a PO Boy version either. Seems weird to me. I wish that Emerson would reconsider his wishes or just make CQC-6 all year and that is the only custom he will make as he only makes a few customs each year anyway. And everyone knows the CQC-6 is the one that started this history that us ..."US" ..Emersons fans covet the most.
 
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Hmmmm ok my plate is full converting knives right now and starting a new job in January but I think I might just might do a 6 clone

Might make my own blade for it to ... s35 ? Or 10v lol don’t push me guys lol
 
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Funny thing is all this talk kind of makes me want to make a 6 myself. Ive build custom vintage motorcycles and custom watches from scratch so can't imagine this being too terribly difficult. The only thing I don't have on site is the ability for blasting the bolsters when they're shaped, but I've always wanted a little blast chamber.

I wish I was more of a 6 fan, then I'd do it without a second thought. The 7 is just a better design...but I've got plenty of them so I could spare one for the project. If I can find a decent blast chamber and some Ti / Micarta to work with then you'll see a 6 from me one of these days, just for sport.

I won't bother making new liners though, I'd just extend the scales and make liner extensions and support with the backspacer. Simple enough in theory.
 
I can provide all of that for you.. I have a blast cabinet to blast your bolsters ... I personall want to domy own liners and blade though.

My issue is cutting the little u shaped detente and cuttling the lock bar and putting the detente on them.

Also the detent holes in the blade
 
The secondary U-detent is not required. I have a 90's Benchmade CQC-7 (970) and it does not have the U-detent. The lockbar appears to be the only detent. It has a much larger washer on the presentation side that centers the blade and it does a great job at it. I'll bet this is what was done on early CQC6's as well.

Cutting the lockbar would require a water-jet cutter or laser, but seeing your work I'll bet you could pull it off with hand tools/dremel and fine cutting wheels. It would be fine for a 1-off project, but a pain if you decide to make more than one. I know I could do this, as I've made cuts like this in Ti for other applications and it works just fine.

Pressing the detent ball is easy enough provided you get sizing spot on, and for the ball you just need to source small ball bearings. Not sure from where, but I've seen them in my various mechanical fuk-ups when they go bouncing across the floor into the dimension of lost keys and single socks, so I know they're out there if you buy a particular bearing and pry the races apart. Off the top of my head R/C car bearings might be a good source.

Detent hole on blade is easy. Assuming you go with a solo lockbar detent, just drill the detent hole on the lockbar and do a mock assembly with no scales and no detent ball installed, then close the blade and you can mark the blade for the detent hole through the lockbar hole. If you are using a blade with an existing detent hole that gets in the way of function I'd just do a quick spot weld on a low setting and grind it out for a clean surface. That shouldn't change the properties of the blade steel in any way that matters ...?

If you make your own blade I vote Damascus!

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Edit to add: if anyone from EKI is reading this I promise not to make a 6 if you sell me one. Otherwise I'm probably going to do it when my gun projects are completed and my boredom level reaches a certain point. We get a lot of rain here so boredom level goes up fast...
 
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mt666tm said:
The secondary U-detent is not required. I have a 90's Benchmade CQC-7 (970) and it does not have the U-detent. The lockbar appears to be the only detent. It has a much larger washer on the presentation side that centers the blade and it does a great job at it. I'll bet this is what was done on early CQC6's as well.

Cutting the lockbar would require a water-jet cutter or laser, but seeing your work I'll bet you could pull it off with hand tools/dremel and fine cutting wheels. It would be fine for a 1-off project, but a pain if you decide to make more than one. I know I could do this, as I've made cuts like this in Ti for other applications and it works just fine.

Pressing the detent ball is easy enough provided you get sizing spot on, and for the ball you just need to source small ball bearings. Not sure from where, but I've seen them in my various mechanical fuk-ups when they go bouncing across the floor into the dimension of lost keys and single socks, so I know they're out there if you buy a particular bearing and pry the races apart. Off the top of my head R/C car bearings might be a good source.

Detent hole on blade is easy. Assuming you go with a solo lockbar detent, just drill the detent hole on the lockbar and do a mock assembly with no scales and no detent ball installed, then close the blade and you can mark the blade for the detent hole through the lockbar hole. If you are using a blade with an existing detent hole that gets in the way of function I'd just do a quick spot weld on a low setting and grind it out for a clean surface. That shouldn't change the properties of the blade steel in any way that matters ...?

If you make your own blade I vote Damascus!

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Edit to add: if anyone from EKI is reading this I promise not to make a 6 if you sell me one. Otherwise I'm probably going to do it when my gun projects are completed and my boredom level reaches a certain point. We get a lot of rain here so boredom level goes up fast...
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Lmfao to the end of this message Hahahaha
 
So after holding an a-100 what I’d like to know is how (if any) wider is the cqc6 ?

Wonder if I could just make a tanto blade for an a-100 and boat tail the back ?
 
The A100 is a bit thinner when talking about width of scales, and the pivot is actually off center to the scale with the axis a bit closer to the blade edge when opened, if that makes any sense? but you could compensate for that with a wider bolster/scale.

Im sure you could do it and it would look great regardless. These are never going to be 100% accurate anyways. Even using a 7 blade is a dead giveaway.
 
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