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So, what'll you be carrying to protect the kiddos when you're out trick or treating?
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Gollnick
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You gotta love America.
The thougth of those little tots out begging for candy while daddy looks on with his AK47 is just great. Yes, October 31st is the one night when you can overtly carry that AK47.
But, as the arsenals are being assembled, I'd ask you to consider this: there are a lot of little kids out there. Take a few moments and define for yourself some "rules of engagement." Under what conditions would you open fire in a residential neighborhood teeming with little childern?
If you're going to take a firearm, please be sure it has night sights and be sure you have a good flashlight or tac light along and that you know how to use your firearm and flashlight together and have actually practiced it (I am the only person I've ever seen at the range where I practice who drills with his flashlight). You do not want to actually take the proverbial shot in the dark. Without night sights and a flashlight, you'll be hard-pressed for a good answer when asked in court, "Why did you pull the trigger if you didn't know where your gun was pointed or what it was pointed at?"
Violent crime is a serious threat to the safety of children. This evening, as a festive atmosphere sets in and childeren in costumes approach adults they don't know, also often in costumes, to ask for candy, the risk level is high.
But, the greater risk to your children remains that of personal injury, falling down, or even being hit by a car. In addition to the weapons, you'd be well-advised to pack along a few Band Aides (tm) for minor scrapes and scratches, and some larger bandages to control bleeding while waiting for the medics you'll call with your cell phone which you should also bring. Don't forget as you walk around the dark streets, to keep track of which street you're on and what the nearest cross-street is.
As for me, well, I have never understood the desire to celebrate Reformation Day by dressing the kids up and parading around begging for candy. The whole thing upsets my poor old spaniel so we're gonna go and sit it out at my office.
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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.4cs.net/~gollnick
The thougth of those little tots out begging for candy while daddy looks on with his AK47 is just great. Yes, October 31st is the one night when you can overtly carry that AK47.
But, as the arsenals are being assembled, I'd ask you to consider this: there are a lot of little kids out there. Take a few moments and define for yourself some "rules of engagement." Under what conditions would you open fire in a residential neighborhood teeming with little childern?
If you're going to take a firearm, please be sure it has night sights and be sure you have a good flashlight or tac light along and that you know how to use your firearm and flashlight together and have actually practiced it (I am the only person I've ever seen at the range where I practice who drills with his flashlight). You do not want to actually take the proverbial shot in the dark. Without night sights and a flashlight, you'll be hard-pressed for a good answer when asked in court, "Why did you pull the trigger if you didn't know where your gun was pointed or what it was pointed at?"
Violent crime is a serious threat to the safety of children. This evening, as a festive atmosphere sets in and childeren in costumes approach adults they don't know, also often in costumes, to ask for candy, the risk level is high.
But, the greater risk to your children remains that of personal injury, falling down, or even being hit by a car. In addition to the weapons, you'd be well-advised to pack along a few Band Aides (tm) for minor scrapes and scratches, and some larger bandages to control bleeding while waiting for the medics you'll call with your cell phone which you should also bring. Don't forget as you walk around the dark streets, to keep track of which street you're on and what the nearest cross-street is.
As for me, well, I have never understood the desire to celebrate Reformation Day by dressing the kids up and parading around begging for candy. The whole thing upsets my poor old spaniel so we're gonna go and sit it out at my office.
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Chuck
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I second that one, Gollnick. Two nights ago I got to try out a friend's Surefire 6P with the lights out. Neither of us did so well with a .38 we'd been at least making killzone shots with all night long. No night sights and inexperience made it almost impossible. Now this was at 50 feet, but it was also with no hurry and no threat!
However, I trust most forumites to be careful with weaponry.
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"It is not criminals who enter schools and shoot children . . ."
--Ann Pearston, British gun control apologist and Moron
However, I trust most forumites to be careful with weaponry.
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"It is not criminals who enter schools and shoot children . . ."
--Ann Pearston, British gun control apologist and Moron
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No gun for me tonight. Its a good point above about "rules of engagement" and firing in the dark. The reason for no gun tonight is there will be many children out and I dont see all that well in the day time much less at night
I have only been in one confrontation on haloween with a mouthy drunk, driving like an idiot. He never got out of his car and while calling me names out his window he was driving off slowly enough that I jotted down his tag number
Oh, sorry for rambling, the purpose of this post is what are we gonna protect our little gobblins with tonight. For me its gonna be a Livesay ICU and a Woo. Everybody have a safe night, and remember, the candy is for your kids, not you
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Knives everywhere, oh what a wonderful sight.
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Gollnick as usual makes outstanding points while we all brag about our arsenals.I don't know if he is a retired ethics or english professor but expreeses himself in writing better then 99.9% of us.
Rules of engagement.It must be little more then a roomlength to avoid engangering others.Especially our precious children.
Uncle Bill-I just reread this thread and my heart goes out to you,I hope the lighter tone we're using didn't offend you.
The modern world is a paradox.Internet communications with you guys and bladeforums is a joy and impossible 10 years ago.BUT...there are wild animals amoung us and stalking us(I'm not referring to cocker spaniels either)! Those aware of this must be careful and responsible citizens or risk labeling as "nuts".
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Tim
Rules of engagement.It must be little more then a roomlength to avoid engangering others.Especially our precious children.
Uncle Bill-I just reread this thread and my heart goes out to you,I hope the lighter tone we're using didn't offend you.
The modern world is a paradox.Internet communications with you guys and bladeforums is a joy and impossible 10 years ago.BUT...there are wild animals amoung us and stalking us(I'm not referring to cocker spaniels either)! Those aware of this must be careful and responsible citizens or risk labeling as "nuts".
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Tim
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Hi all,
Next year I'm dressing up like a cowboy and taking two Colt Peacemakers out for a spin.
Later,
John
"The richest men get the cheapest thrills."
Next year I'm dressing up like a cowboy and taking two Colt Peacemakers out for a spin.
Later,
John
"The richest men get the cheapest thrills."
Gollnick
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Thank you all for your very kind words. I am flattered.
Wow, to think of me as some sort of professor. Sorry to disappoint, but I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer. I retired for real about a year ago, but got talked into coming back and doing a little work.
While a civilian all my life, I have had the opportunity to take some very good training classes including one in low- and no-light handgun defense. I'm constantly amazed to find folks defensively carrying guns without night sites. Some may say, "Well it's two in the afternoon on a bright, sunny day. I'm just going to the store. I'll be back in an hour, well before dark. But what if something comes up (car troubles, maybe?) and you're caught out later than you thought? I was at Target several months ago deep in the back of the store when the whole store lost electrical power. Boy it was dark in there. I and several other people were glad I had a 6P with me. You need to see to shoot. You have to know where your gun is pointed and what it's pointed at. Night sites and a flashlight plus the training and practice to use them together are essential.
Knife fighting in the dark is a different experience too. Unfortunately, most knife classes are taught in brightly lit rooms while many street fights take place in poorly lit venues.
Even hand-to-hand, whatever system you may use, is different when you can't see very well.
Manipulating a balisong in the dark (or with a blindfold on) is a great drill too. It really teaches you how much we rely on vision and how different things are when we can see as well.
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Chuck
Balisongs -- because it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing!
http://www.4cs.net/~gollnick
Wow, to think of me as some sort of professor. Sorry to disappoint, but I'm a semi-retired electrical engineer. I retired for real about a year ago, but got talked into coming back and doing a little work.
While a civilian all my life, I have had the opportunity to take some very good training classes including one in low- and no-light handgun defense. I'm constantly amazed to find folks defensively carrying guns without night sites. Some may say, "Well it's two in the afternoon on a bright, sunny day. I'm just going to the store. I'll be back in an hour, well before dark. But what if something comes up (car troubles, maybe?) and you're caught out later than you thought? I was at Target several months ago deep in the back of the store when the whole store lost electrical power. Boy it was dark in there. I and several other people were glad I had a 6P with me. You need to see to shoot. You have to know where your gun is pointed and what it's pointed at. Night sites and a flashlight plus the training and practice to use them together are essential.
Knife fighting in the dark is a different experience too. Unfortunately, most knife classes are taught in brightly lit rooms while many street fights take place in poorly lit venues.
Even hand-to-hand, whatever system you may use, is different when you can't see very well.
Manipulating a balisong in the dark (or with a blindfold on) is a great drill too. It really teaches you how much we rely on vision and how different things are when we can see as well.
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Chuck
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No kids for me and the Mrs. yet, but we just got married this past May. 
But I think we'll stick to church-sponsored festivals and such when we do finally have kids. I don't see us going door-to-door to get anything from people we don't know. As for this year, I find comfort in knowing there's a S&W .357 nearby if some nut decides to try and break in. At this late hour, I'm sure all the young-uns are in bed and dreaming about their allotment of candy! I sure hope they all had a fun and safe evening! And Uncle Bill, my prayers are with you and your family. God bless you!
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Chris
"We Don't Rent Pigs" --Augustus McCrae
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But I think we'll stick to church-sponsored festivals and such when we do finally have kids. I don't see us going door-to-door to get anything from people we don't know. As for this year, I find comfort in knowing there's a S&W .357 nearby if some nut decides to try and break in. At this late hour, I'm sure all the young-uns are in bed and dreaming about their allotment of candy! I sure hope they all had a fun and safe evening! And Uncle Bill, my prayers are with you and your family. God bless you!
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Chris
"We Don't Rent Pigs" --Augustus McCrae
"I won't abide rude behavior in a man." -- Woodrow Call
