So who here wishes they could be thrust into a real survival situation?

Best laugh I have had all week. Thanks.

I can just imagine it:

darkestthicket's wife: "Dumbass, you've stranded the Saab in the middle of nowhere and now no one knows where we are either."

darkestthicket: "Calm down please, I've spent a significant fraction of my life reading, researching, preparing, and applying all manner of bush skills."

dw: "You mean we're gonna be alright?"

d: "We'd better be--or it is going to get pretty damn embarrassing for me back at bladeforums when the fellas put two and two together and figure out that I'm the one everyone's looking for. Maybe I should just wander off right now the way they rip and second guess everyone and everything in the boonies.:D

It would be particularly bad if it was me getting lost in Oregon, being from CA and all. :D
 
As many people that have been saying "No way, Jose. You'd have to be an idiot to want to be in a survival situation." I guarantee you there are people reading this that wish they could.

I think they're just scared to post.





I don't want to post because I don't want to reveal how unusual I am, I've always enjoyed getting into situations, and I have had countless adventures and tight scrapes.

One quick example of what was a way of life for me was, I used to just walk out of someones house with no money and no ID, then start hitch hiking around the country, one time I had $40.00, but the rest of the time I followed my rule of totally empty pockets.

During my months long adventures I ran into conditions I had never known, from deserts and mountains to blizzards and violence. once I went 4 months without shoes on a several thousand mile adventure, I finally stopped the adventure after I was worn out and had lost 60 pounds. I did variations of that for 20 years.

When the army wanted me to be a jump master I turned down the opportunity, because I recognize that there is something in me that craves chaos and challenge, and I was afraid that that impulse may make me overlook a detail on a jumper I was inspecting.

After the army when it was time to leave Washington state, to go back to Texas with my young wife, I asked everyone what road to take, I noticed everyone kept saying that one route through the mountains would be too dangerous, and probably impassable at that time of year, so naturally that was the route I took, we ran into a blizzard and ran out of gas but I got gasoline from a snow plow a mile or two away so nothing much happened, but I sure enjoyed it.

I have learned to have two standards, one where I will take many chances, and another one for when someone is with me.


The last time I spent the night in the wilds in 25 degrees without a bag or a jacket, I learned that I could lay on the ground, put my candle lantern next to my head with a space blanket over me and actually doze off for a few minutes at a time (it is southern California, so I can't build fires etc).

The only way to get myself into that situation was I had to just strike out into the dark into the mountains, in the daylight it was pretty easy to find my way back.

Getting yourself into situations can be a little heartbreaking if you think you aren't going to make it, but many of them have moments of real pleasure.

If you are comfortable with the fact that you are going to die somewhere anyway, dying while you are meeting exciting challenges, alone with nature, isn't the worst way to go.
 
I have been there. It ain't fun. I have carried bodies down off the mountain and wondered what i am going to say to the woman waiting for the chunk of frozen stuff on my shoulder that used to be her husband.

I was on a small plane that went down and WE KNEW that no one knew where we were, because we had filed no plan, no one knew we had decided another lake seemed like a better bet for fishing that day. The whole time all i could think about was my mom was going to have to go to my funeral.

People love to say i keep this in my bag or that in my kit, and if something happens, I will be ok, but when your bag goes to the bottom the lake with the plane you were in, then what? The person is the TOOL> everything else is just accessories.

Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. When you get lucky, say thanks and learn from it. When you arn't, be thankful you mailed in that life insurance premium to take care of your wife and kids.
 
I have been there. It ain't fun. I have carried bodies down off the mountain and wondered what i am going to say to the woman waiting for the chunk of frozen stuff on my shoulder that used to be her husband.

I was on a small plane that went down and WE KNEW that no one knew where we were, because we had filed no plan, no one knew we had decided another lake seemed like a better bet for fishing that day. The whole time all i could think about was my mom was going to have to go to my funeral.

People love to say i keep this in my bag or that in my kit, and if something happens, I will be ok, but when your bag goes to the bottom the lake with the plane you were in, then what? The person is the TOOL> everything else is just accessories.

Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. When you get lucky, say thanks and learn from it. When you arn't, be thankful you mailed in that life insurance premium to take care of your wife and kids.





Was that Mt. Rainier? Living under that mountain was an eye opener for me.
 
"Was that Mt. Rainier? Living under that mountain was an eye opener for me."

Oh yeah. Me too (I brought my shoes and some cash though)...

"A very active UFO base exists beneath Mt. Ranier. There are also said to be underground "vaults" containing records of the ancient Lemurians. (Note: F.L. Boschke wrote the book "The Unexplained" about the mysteries surrounding Mt. Ranier.) The ice cap of Mt. Ranier contains a maze of corridors and caves. In August of 1970, scientists climbed to the top of Mt. Ranier, and entered these caverns and tunnels. Evidence was found indicating that a small lake exists deep beneath the ice cap. It is possible that one could find a way to get beneath Mt. Ranier through these tunnels."

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/tunnels2.html
 
Oh cool! It's turned into a UFO thread!! :eek:

This goes to show, you should always keep a UFO survival beacon in your kit. :thumbup:
If not, at the very least, flash the Bat Signal. ;)
 
The only "survival" situation I want to be thrust into would involve the swedish women's volleyball team and a hot spring.
 
Dang....y'all are seriously cracking me up...!



Do I wish I could be thrust into a real survival situation?


Heck ya!

Bring it on...



Been there done that...several times. Once crossed a (mostly) collapsed bridge in the dark, raining, with a 100 lb. sack on my shoulder, water rushing below - after the truck we were in had been sliding off the road coming down a muddy mountain...this on no food or sleep. Also, have been literally lost in the mountains with no clue of how to get back, no water, sun already setting, etc...eventually found my way home (has happened, um...several times - too many probably). Lost in the fog at the top of a mountain in winter, injured, skiing to the bottom on a board, carrying my gear.


Now...a lot less of this stuff happens now than it used to in my "younger days"...and I certainly am not jumping out of my pants to repeat it...


But honestly, are you ever ready? fully prepared? freshly trained?



Sometimes you just gotta go with what you know and add a little faith that everything will work out alright.

If you've done your homework ahead of time and can anticipate certain problems...you've already solved most of them in your head.



And yes, I did just buy the "Worst Case Scenario: Trivia" game at Wal-Mart the other day....:foot:.....and I love it. :D
 
i have spent many days and nights in the wilderness on purpose to check out my survival gear,to eliminate some items and to add others.you can have what youthink is a great survival kit,until you test it.what might make me comfy tro some extent might be awful for the next guy.if you go into the wilderness i feel that you should always have a survival kit and always with you.its best to te4st it before you bet your life on it.i designed my kit to fit in an m16 clip pouch,and it works good,i tried it.grandpas knives
 
It's good to be tested, but it's better to be alive.

Without any specifics as to the survival scenario, I'll pass. (The media attention sounds like the least desirabe part of the deal, but then again, I don't photgraph well. :o )

I believe the best time to try new things is when you're in control of most the other variables. For example, over the years, I've taught myself to be ambidextrous in most activities including firearms, writing, etc. I haven't needed this skill yet, but if I do, I don't want to have to learn it while things are falling apart all around me. It's good to expand your comfort zone when the opportunity presents itself.

I like to push things, but I always try to monitor just how far I'm getting out on the thin edge. I spend most of my time in the wilderness solo, so this self-monitoring process has become instictive.

Let's remember, one man's survival situation is another man's field trip. Everybody has a breaking point.
 
Depends on the type of "survival situation".
If it's a plane wreck, or getting lost in the north woods, but I remain uninjured and have my kit, a couple knives on me, and some decent clothes, then sure. But that's because I have confidence that I'll make it thru, and even be able to challenge myself to come up with ways to make things more comfortable until I'm found. Shoot, I think I have a better chance of "surviving" being lost in a pine forest for two weeks, with some gear, than many well trained climbers do taking on a serious peak. And they willingly put themselves there every chance they get, knowing that they have a reasonable chance of not coming back.

All that said, I wouldn't want to be dropped in the middle of nowhere, with a broken leg, a paper clip and a rubber band. But I would like to think that the preparation most of us undergo would enable one to survive it, and get home alive.

Just a side note. As an LEO, one of our "Tactical Principles" used to be "a survival mentality", but they have done away with it, and changed it to "a winning mentality". The reasoning is that one could live through a situation with life changing injuries, lose the bad guy, etc, and still survive. Winning means getting through it without being crippled, or seriously injured, and getting our man. It's not just about coming home alive, but coming home to your family in one piece, able to do it again the next day. More than just semantics.......

Regards,

Jim
 
you can have what youthink is a great survival kit,until you test it...i designed my kit to fit in an m16 clip pouch,and it works good,i tried it.grandpas knives

That's a fact.

I just "discovered" the good old M16 pouch too... you can fit tons of useful stuff in there. I cut the grenade pockets off mine though, since I hardly ever need grenades around here :)
 
Best laugh I have had all week. Thanks.

I can just imagine it:

darkestthicket's wife: "Dumbass, you've stranded the Saab in the middle of nowhere and now no one knows where we are either."

darkestthicket: "Calm down please, I've spent a significant fraction of my life reading, researching, preparing, and applying all manner of bush skills."

dw: "You mean we're gonna be alright?"

d: "We'd better be--or it is going to get pretty damn embarrassing for me back at bladeforums when the fellas put two and two together and figure out that I'm the one everyone's looking for. Maybe I should just wander off right now the way they rip and second guess everyone and everything in the boonies.:D



Hehehe, im glad you guys liked the scenario! lol. i thought this was pretty funny. one thing though, CAMARO not a saab ;)



Edit :
okay okay maybe i wish now, since my wife read this thread and made fun of me for half an hour. crap.
 
To be honest I think it would definately be an interesting and valuable experience to be thrown into a survival condition in order to test ones skills in as close to a real situation as one can get while still staying safe. Sure it is easy to practice on your own practicing skills but it is another thing to prepare for some of the mental strains that one might encounter. To me it is kinda like training in martial arts. I've seen high ranked practitioners freeze up and choke when faced with a true threat or danger outside of a controlled environment. To me it is easy to brainstorm how I could use what I have in my car and what's in a particular area to survive and sustain myself but I often wonder how clear my thoughts would be and how creative I could be if faced with the fact that I truely might die and I'm S.O.L. if I make the wrong choices. Not to mention if I had others depending on me. So yes I think I'd like to be thrust in a survival situation to test my skills but no I wouldn't want it to count.

-Lindey
 
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