So why do folks buy giant chopper bowies

If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand. ;)

^^^This^^^ lol :D


Kinda like my neighbor: "Why do you need such a big, gas guzzling, 4x4 pickup truck ??? My minivan is SOOOO much more sensible & versatile, hahaha." Fast forward to winter time: Storm-3' of snow, power outage-cold-temp inside house dropping rapidly. Knock, knock. It's the neighbor. "Can i plug into your generator ? NO, you can't, as it is only big enough to power my fridge, freezer & furnace. Why don't you jump in your sensible & versatile minivan & drive to the home center & buy your own. He tried & got stuck. So, i ended up driving him there & he was simply amazed at how i just drove right through the snow with ease. He no longer makes fun of the truck, cause trucks get sh*t done !!!
 
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With a knife you don't have that weight so I feel that I have to swing a knife harder and faster to do the same job as light swings with a hatchet which to me is a lot more dangerous.

That depends on the knife. ;)

 
Some of you may have noticed that I favor the big knife over the hatchet :) This is purely because of the region I live in. Here, in the harsh desert, an axe is less than worthless. It's dead weight. All the extra weight you can manage must be in the form of water(I always love hearing people talk about how they will just simply find water here). A big knife easily chops what I need chopped, and more importantly is a brush clearer. Here, nearly everything growing has very nasty spines or thorns so clearing is important. Safety, again, is critically important. Because of the distances and terrain, if you bury a hatchet in your thigh you are very likely a dead man.

But like I said, when I head to the mountains, as I often do this time of year due to the heat in the desert, the hatchet is my best friend.

Even better for brush and lighter weight would be a machete. :)
 
So why do folks buy giant chopper bowies...



Because they're friggin' fun to use. :D


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Big Mike
 
Great job on that one and amazing for a second round try if I read the other thread correctly!

Thanks. :)
And you are correct, it was the second forged knife I did, and certainly the first of that magnitude.
 
Why do people buy small/medium bushcrafty knives? Why do people buy hatchets? Why do people buy machetes, swords, and mall ninja paraphernalia? Because it fulfills a want or a need and all of this is a matter of opinion. This guy over here might like bowies... that guy hatchets... that guy a sharpened tire iron... who is right? Purely opinion and everyone has differing amounts of experiences both relative to the task, or with a certain tool. This might provide insight into preference. "Well a hatchet chops better than a knife..." Well I am certain that somewhere out there exists a knife that can out chop that hatchet... and a hatchet that can out chop that etc etc etc until pure exhaustion. Its not about whats better entirely, its about what you like, what you need, and what your experiences tell you. Some days I wish this whole debate would just go away, but there were probably two frontiersmen/mountain men who argued these same points before they were both killed and eaten by a wild animal...
 
Why is it always "kool aid" when someone likes something you don't?

How about who cares what others like, do what you like. Too simple and not dramatic enough, eh?

ETA: BTW, my favorite big worthless chopper franken bowie cost 760, not 400. Get to hatin'.
 
^^^This^^^ lol :D


Kinda like my neighbor: "Why do you need such a big, gas guzzling, 4x4 pickup truck ??? My minivan is SOOOO much more sensible & versatile, hahaha." Fast forward to winter time: Storm-3' of snow, power outage-cold-temp inside house dropping rapidly. Knock, knock. It's the neighbor. "Can i plug into your generator ? NO, you can't, as it is only big enough to power my fridge, freezer & furnace. Why don't you jump in your sensible & versatile minivan & drive to the home center & buy your own. He tried & got stuck. So, i ended up driving him there & he was simply amazed at how i just drove right through the snow with ease. He no longer makes fun of the truck, cause trucks get sh*t done !!!

Completely off topic, but this story reminds me of another, again related to environment dictating the best tool for the job:

I live in the Wisconsin's Driftless region.
In the Summer and Autumn droughts, the Prius drivers pull alongside the 4x4 drivers and mock, "So, what kind of gas-mileage are you getting on that monster?"
In the Spring and Summer floods and the Winter blizzards, the 4x4 drivers pull over onto the shoulder and ask the Prius drivers in the ditch, "So, what kind of gas-mileage are you getting?"


On topic, I've compared the cross-grain chopping ability of hatchets to 10" bowie-style knives on 3"-diameter seasoned oak. It takes me the same number of chops, same amount of time, to accomplish the same task with EITHER tool. The knives usually possess thinner geometry for better penetration, while the hatchets' thicker geometry pops out chunks of wood more easily but to a shallower depth. The force of the swing doesn't enter the equation as the results are the same even if I swing as hard as I can. The heavier hatchet heads require more energy to swing and maintain control of than the weight-balanced knives - the hatchet is harder to start swinging and also harder to stop should the need arise (e.g. limbing a branch, cutting without a back-stop). Add to this that the hatchet handles tend to be fairly slick and round, allowing the blade to twist more easily on a glancing blow. On smaller branches, the reduced penetration ability of the hatchet requires more force per chop than the large knife. When cutting without a back-stop, if the target is able to bend away from the blow, the hatchet tends to plow it out of the way rather than cutting, whereas the knife can behave like a machete (assuming an appropriate design). Finally, the knife presents a much great length of cutting edge to work with.

This last point, along with the distributed weight and reduced blade height, increase the versatility of the knife well above that of the hatchet, such that the knife can perform the duties of a small knife much better than the hatchet, e.g. food-prep, whittling, draw-knife, etc. The knife can scrape away wide swaths of bark if needed, can filet fish, and can also pry and dig (depending on design) better than the hatchet. Indeed, the ONLY tasks at which the hatchet excels is splitting where the thicker geometry helps wedge the wood grains apart.
 
I personally was just wondrin' as camp axes are available to me at home depot, where as a giant bowie whacking knife is not. I also never thought to spend anything more than $30 the cost of a camp axe on an object to chop things. I'm personally quite bemused conceptually of this class of knife and learning about knives in general. To me knives represent a lot of things. Idea, organic design, mass production, industrialization, high art, engineering, fantasy, collectibility, utility and functionality and various crosses in between.

Seeing a guy get all hot and heavy over chopping up a tree branch was quite amusing. But seeing stabman turn his concept and thought into a piece of highly functioning art changed my perspective about what a franken-bowie-machete is and can do... I learn a lot from this forum personally. This all came about because I am going on my annual car camping trip next week with the fam...and have been wondering which knives I'll be bringing.
 
Settle down now, there's a clear difference between wondering and hatin'! I havn't asked anyone to control how they spend their own hard earned money in any way other than how they wish.

I was just trying to figure out what this class of knife is. Growing up in an urban setting interesting stuff like giant choppers don't appear very often. I can tell you what a junkie looks like from 40 yards and whether or not in their stupor if they will just stand and sway or hit the floor. But as a city boy if you ask me about a giant knife that can take down a small tree, I will plead ignorance. Doesn't mean I don't want to be learn about it though. = )

Why is it always "kool aid" when someone likes something you don't?

How about who cares what others like, do what you like. Too simple and not dramatic enough, eh?

ETA: BTW, my favorite big worthless chopper franken bowie cost 760, not 400. Get to hatin'.
 
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