Nathan the Machinist
KnifeMaker / Machinist / Evil Genius
Moderator
Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider
- Joined
- Feb 13, 2007
- Messages
- 17,521
This new tweaked Delta 3V is not an improvement. It's not even very much different than regular Delta 3V. But it is a little better at higher hardness and it a good fit for certain knives and certain people who want that little bit more of a crisp edge.
"wow, big deal Nate, you cooked it hotter and tempered it lower. What a breakthrough. *shrug* "
If it were that simple, I'd have found this years ago during D3V development.
Back then I was buying the same 3V as everyone. Over time I started buying entire heats of it, to minimize variations. That also gave me the ability to change the heat condition and grain bias and % cross roll among other things. I can now buy entire melts which opens even more possibilities for little tweaks. While it is basically the same steel design, this tweak resulted in a much finer carbide distribution.
This reduces the edge stability issues at higher hardness and moves the sweet spot up a little bit so we're running it harder.
There is no free lunch. While this results in improved durability in certain use, it costs a little toughness in other use. So I won't be doing this with large blades. But it's a good fit here.
In practice, there honestly isn't much difference. But there is some.
I tweaked the symbol too. I moved it forward, so it stands out and we don't accidently mix them up here, and I changed the marking itself some too. Just to help keep up with things.
We aren't going to stop using our regular Delta 3V. This is a McRib kind of situation.
Today we have your choice of a Signature or a 5" Basic Field Knife in tweaked Delta 3V. The basic does not have a swedge or jimping or weight reduction skeletonization on the tang.
This new run of our classic Field Knife pattern is a fantastic and well thought out tool knife with a best-in-class balance of cutting ability, durability and edge retention. The blade and grip are well thought out and will perform in the many grips used by a tradesman, and bush crafter. This is an excellent value for a high quality cutting tool that will perform reliably for a lifetime with well above average durability and edge retention.
^these are pictures from a magnacut sale, so the logo is wrong. Same knife design though.
Specs (signature series):
CPM tweaked Delta 3V, 62 HRC, .188" thick at ricasso, sharpened 20 DPS.
Total length 10.4"
Blade length 5.5"
Weight 9.1 oz
Grippy 3D machined scales in your choice of black or natural micarta
18-8 stainless steel fasteners
Mashed Cat sheaths with semi rigid drop loop are custom made for these knives and are well designed and well made. TecLok available upon request.
Here's a video of the original Basic 5 doing stuff:
The new Basic 5 has a few minor tweaks.
The signature location is changed
The sharpening notch is tweaked
The primary grinds are a little thinner (the OG was developed for Amazon, this second production run is for you guys)
The primary grinds are finished to a higher standard than the OG build (again, this second run is for you guys)
These are all field grade, milled, ground and tumbled with tool and grind marks.
$465 in canvas micarta, black or natural, signature series (as shown)
$350 in canvas micarta, black or natural, basic series (as shown)
Other scales options:
Scales, substitute for basic micarta:
Black Linen micarta $10
Double Black canvas micarta $10
OD green micarta $10
Blue canvas "micarta" $20
Double Black Linen micarta $20
Double "Red" canvas micarta (maroon color) $20
Tri-Color Canvas micarta $20
Burlap micarta $20
Scarlet Linen micarta $30
Bright Blue micarta $30
Double Red and Black Linen micarta $30
Vintage micarta (International Paper) $30
Crusty Vintage (International Paper) micarta $50
OD green or Orange or Black G10 $10
Terotuf (grey or Orange or OD green) $20
To place an order stake your claim in this thread and Jo will contact you to finalize your order. If you don't hear from her by mid week next week, contact her at jocarothers at g mail dought com
^folks who are posting here to purchase a knife that don't have an email listed in their profile and also aren't set up to get PM's (because they don't have a gold membership), Jo can't contact you so you will need to send her an email
If sales tax is due (due to your location) your order will be discounted so the total is the same as everybody else.
Shipping is already built into the price (BF policy) but if you get more than one the additional shipping will be deducted from your total.
Since these are being built to order it can take a few weeks to get everybody shipped.
Come back here in two weeks for more of these.
Thank you. Jo, Mark, Bo, Ben, Trevor, Tanto and I appreciate you.
BTW, we have a website that we post some old inventory on sometimes if anybody is interested. https://carothersknives.com/shop/
I'm starting to sell some of the high concentration diamond stropping shmoo that I use to strop every CPK and also the competition choppers with an unprecedented number of Blade sport wins including multiple championships. It's special, it works and I'm going to start selling it on our website. information here: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...ion-diamond-shmoo-stropping-compound.1986024/
It's $50 if you want to add it to your order.
"wow, big deal Nate, you cooked it hotter and tempered it lower. What a breakthrough. *shrug* "
If it were that simple, I'd have found this years ago during D3V development.
Back then I was buying the same 3V as everyone. Over time I started buying entire heats of it, to minimize variations. That also gave me the ability to change the heat condition and grain bias and % cross roll among other things. I can now buy entire melts which opens even more possibilities for little tweaks. While it is basically the same steel design, this tweak resulted in a much finer carbide distribution.
This reduces the edge stability issues at higher hardness and moves the sweet spot up a little bit so we're running it harder.
There is no free lunch. While this results in improved durability in certain use, it costs a little toughness in other use. So I won't be doing this with large blades. But it's a good fit here.
In practice, there honestly isn't much difference. But there is some.
I tweaked the symbol too. I moved it forward, so it stands out and we don't accidently mix them up here, and I changed the marking itself some too. Just to help keep up with things.
We aren't going to stop using our regular Delta 3V. This is a McRib kind of situation.
Today we have your choice of a Signature or a 5" Basic Field Knife in tweaked Delta 3V. The basic does not have a swedge or jimping or weight reduction skeletonization on the tang.
This new run of our classic Field Knife pattern is a fantastic and well thought out tool knife with a best-in-class balance of cutting ability, durability and edge retention. The blade and grip are well thought out and will perform in the many grips used by a tradesman, and bush crafter. This is an excellent value for a high quality cutting tool that will perform reliably for a lifetime with well above average durability and edge retention.
^these are pictures from a magnacut sale, so the logo is wrong. Same knife design though.
Specs (signature series):
CPM tweaked Delta 3V, 62 HRC, .188" thick at ricasso, sharpened 20 DPS.
Total length 10.4"
Blade length 5.5"
Weight 9.1 oz
Grippy 3D machined scales in your choice of black or natural micarta
18-8 stainless steel fasteners
Mashed Cat sheaths with semi rigid drop loop are custom made for these knives and are well designed and well made. TecLok available upon request.
Here's a video of the original Basic 5 doing stuff:
The new Basic 5 has a few minor tweaks.
The signature location is changed
The sharpening notch is tweaked
The primary grinds are a little thinner (the OG was developed for Amazon, this second production run is for you guys)
The primary grinds are finished to a higher standard than the OG build (again, this second run is for you guys)
These are all field grade, milled, ground and tumbled with tool and grind marks.
$465 in canvas micarta, black or natural, signature series (as shown)
$350 in canvas micarta, black or natural, basic series (as shown)
Other scales options:
Scales, substitute for basic micarta:
Black Linen micarta $10
Double Black canvas micarta $10
OD green micarta $10
Blue canvas "micarta" $20
Double Black Linen micarta $20
Double "Red" canvas micarta (maroon color) $20
Tri-Color Canvas micarta $20
Burlap micarta $20
Scarlet Linen micarta $30
Bright Blue micarta $30
Double Red and Black Linen micarta $30
Vintage micarta (International Paper) $30
Crusty Vintage (International Paper) micarta $50
OD green or Orange or Black G10 $10
Terotuf (grey or Orange or OD green) $20
To place an order stake your claim in this thread and Jo will contact you to finalize your order. If you don't hear from her by mid week next week, contact her at jocarothers at g mail dought com
^folks who are posting here to purchase a knife that don't have an email listed in their profile and also aren't set up to get PM's (because they don't have a gold membership), Jo can't contact you so you will need to send her an email
If sales tax is due (due to your location) your order will be discounted so the total is the same as everybody else.
Shipping is already built into the price (BF policy) but if you get more than one the additional shipping will be deducted from your total.
Since these are being built to order it can take a few weeks to get everybody shipped.
Come back here in two weeks for more of these.
Thank you. Jo, Mark, Bo, Ben, Trevor, Tanto and I appreciate you.
BTW, we have a website that we post some old inventory on sometimes if anybody is interested. https://carothersknives.com/shop/
I'm starting to sell some of the high concentration diamond stropping shmoo that I use to strop every CPK and also the competition choppers with an unprecedented number of Blade sport wins including multiple championships. It's special, it works and I'm going to start selling it on our website. information here: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads...ion-diamond-shmoo-stropping-compound.1986024/
It's $50 if you want to add it to your order.
