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Springfield Armory 1911DS Prodigy 4.25": $1,500 TRADE PENDING
Springfield Armory 1911DS Prodigy with 4.25" barrel. Approximately 700 rounds through it. Comes with 17- and 20-round OEM (Duramag) magazines as well as 17- and 20-round Gen 3 Staccato magazines ($120 value) as well as a selection of Wolff recoil spring and firing pin spring kits [13#, 14# (installed, 12# factory spring is in the bag for this one), 17#, and 18#] as well as factory soft case, cardboard box, and standard SA accessories.
Why should you pay retail for this Prodigy, when you can get a new one for the same price? Well, you won't pay sales tax or transfer fees, you get the two Staccato mags, but most importantly, you get a working Prodigy.
This one went back to SA for about a 10% failure to feed rate over 400 rounds of ammunition. These guns have some known issues - tight chambers, poor extractor tuning, rough disconnector interaction, and most importantly, factory recoil springs that are 9# on the 5" model and 12# on the 4.25" model combined with heavy mainsprings. These springs could work with carefully selected ammunition but are frankly just too light for as heavy as the slide is, especially because the disconnector on some of these guns is too rough and can cause the slide to hang up. Many of these guns just flat-out require work out of the box. Buy this one instead, I've already done all the work for you, and you'll get a couple of expensive Staccato mags to go with it.
Clint, the gunsmith at Coyote Creek Outdoors in Rochester, buffed the feed ramp and disconnector, and then the gun went back to SA, who finish reamed and polished the chamber. None of this fixed the gun, but changing the 12# recoil spring for a 14# recoil spring resolved the reliability issues entirely, and the gun then ran flawlessly without cleaning or additional lubrication over an additional 300 rounds of varying 9mm ammunition from 115-gr. to 147-gr., both JHP and FMJ. This one now functions. It could be improved with a Wilson Bulletproof extractor being fitted by a smith, as the stock extractor is still not great, but it runs.
Business End Customs Glock 19 Gen 4:$550 SOLD
This is an old build (2015) on a Gen4 Glock 19 from Lou Biondo of Business End Customs. He is now primarily a high-end full-custom 1911 smith, and I do not believe he is taking polymer pistol work anymore. This features burnt bronze Cerakote on the slide, Lou's signature "Tree Bark" frame texturing, heavy undercut on the trigger guard to avoid the infamous Glock knuckle, removal of the Gen4 Glock finger grooves, and installation of an Ameriglo Pro-Dot tritium front sight with a large orange ring. The rear sight is an Ameriglo with a Heine Straight-8 pattern rear sight with a single tritium dot. The sights are older but still have a bit of life in them.
The gun is used and carried, probably less than 1,000 rounds through it. There is some wear on the Cerakote from holster carry. Comes with three magazines; Lou's order sheet detailing the work done; and the Glock factory case, magazine loader, and alternate backstraps. However, because of the frame texturing, I suspect the backstraps are not usable.
Terms and Conditions
Note: Bladeforums is once again not playing nice with pictures.
Payment by cash, USPS Money Order, and personal check (that last accepted at my discretion based on your Bladeforums history). No electronic payment since it's firearms.
Minnesota face-to-face sale preferred, will need to see your valid driver's license and permit to carry or purchase and also sign a bill of sale. Will ship to your FFL using ShipMyGun if you confirm your FFL will accept firearms from non-FFL holders. Note that this may take a while - ShipMyGun must send me the box and label first, and then it must go to your FFL. Your FFL must be on file with ShipMyGun. These will go insured, and you'll need to provide your info so I can calculate the shipping cost.
I request buyer reply promptly after receipt to confirm delivery and satisfaction. If I have not heard from you within three days of delivery confirmation, I will consider the sale final. No returns for buyer's remorse. I make careful effort to accurately describe and photograph knives I sell or trade, but if you feel that the knife was not accurately described, please contact me within three days of receipt to arrange return and refund and send me a picture of the defect.
I'll leave positive feedback for any buyer who posts in the sale thread, pays reasonably promptly and promptly notifies me when they receive the knife.
International Buyers
Obviously no international sales.
Springfield Armory 1911DS Prodigy with 4.25" barrel. Approximately 700 rounds through it. Comes with 17- and 20-round OEM (Duramag) magazines as well as 17- and 20-round Gen 3 Staccato magazines ($120 value) as well as a selection of Wolff recoil spring and firing pin spring kits [13#, 14# (installed, 12# factory spring is in the bag for this one), 17#, and 18#] as well as factory soft case, cardboard box, and standard SA accessories.
Why should you pay retail for this Prodigy, when you can get a new one for the same price? Well, you won't pay sales tax or transfer fees, you get the two Staccato mags, but most importantly, you get a working Prodigy.
This one went back to SA for about a 10% failure to feed rate over 400 rounds of ammunition. These guns have some known issues - tight chambers, poor extractor tuning, rough disconnector interaction, and most importantly, factory recoil springs that are 9# on the 5" model and 12# on the 4.25" model combined with heavy mainsprings. These springs could work with carefully selected ammunition but are frankly just too light for as heavy as the slide is, especially because the disconnector on some of these guns is too rough and can cause the slide to hang up. Many of these guns just flat-out require work out of the box. Buy this one instead, I've already done all the work for you, and you'll get a couple of expensive Staccato mags to go with it.
Clint, the gunsmith at Coyote Creek Outdoors in Rochester, buffed the feed ramp and disconnector, and then the gun went back to SA, who finish reamed and polished the chamber. None of this fixed the gun, but changing the 12# recoil spring for a 14# recoil spring resolved the reliability issues entirely, and the gun then ran flawlessly without cleaning or additional lubrication over an additional 300 rounds of varying 9mm ammunition from 115-gr. to 147-gr., both JHP and FMJ. This one now functions. It could be improved with a Wilson Bulletproof extractor being fitted by a smith, as the stock extractor is still not great, but it runs.
Business End Customs Glock 19 Gen 4:
This is an old build (2015) on a Gen4 Glock 19 from Lou Biondo of Business End Customs. He is now primarily a high-end full-custom 1911 smith, and I do not believe he is taking polymer pistol work anymore. This features burnt bronze Cerakote on the slide, Lou's signature "Tree Bark" frame texturing, heavy undercut on the trigger guard to avoid the infamous Glock knuckle, removal of the Gen4 Glock finger grooves, and installation of an Ameriglo Pro-Dot tritium front sight with a large orange ring. The rear sight is an Ameriglo with a Heine Straight-8 pattern rear sight with a single tritium dot. The sights are older but still have a bit of life in them.
The gun is used and carried, probably less than 1,000 rounds through it. There is some wear on the Cerakote from holster carry. Comes with three magazines; Lou's order sheet detailing the work done; and the Glock factory case, magazine loader, and alternate backstraps. However, because of the frame texturing, I suspect the backstraps are not usable.
Terms and Conditions
Note: Bladeforums is once again not playing nice with pictures.
Payment by cash, USPS Money Order, and personal check (that last accepted at my discretion based on your Bladeforums history). No electronic payment since it's firearms.
Minnesota face-to-face sale preferred, will need to see your valid driver's license and permit to carry or purchase and also sign a bill of sale. Will ship to your FFL using ShipMyGun if you confirm your FFL will accept firearms from non-FFL holders. Note that this may take a while - ShipMyGun must send me the box and label first, and then it must go to your FFL. Your FFL must be on file with ShipMyGun. These will go insured, and you'll need to provide your info so I can calculate the shipping cost.
I request buyer reply promptly after receipt to confirm delivery and satisfaction. If I have not heard from you within three days of delivery confirmation, I will consider the sale final. No returns for buyer's remorse. I make careful effort to accurately describe and photograph knives I sell or trade, but if you feel that the knife was not accurately described, please contact me within three days of receipt to arrange return and refund and send me a picture of the defect.
I'll leave positive feedback for any buyer who posts in the sale thread, pays reasonably promptly and promptly notifies me when they receive the knife.
International Buyers
Obviously no international sales.
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