Some benifits to investing in a Strider SNG?

[mmarkh]

Put a $400 price tag on the Spyderco and you'd want that just as much as the Strider.. I think a lot of it has to do with just saying.. I have a "insert knife name here" that cost $400.. and your mind rationalizes it that if it wasn't $400 it wouldn't do what it can do. It all comes down to a "want" factor.. and the more it is out of your reach.. the more you want it.. knives, guns, motorcycles, women.. you name it. It's our nature. But trust me, once you open the box and play with it for a day.. you'll be back on here with another "which should I get" post.

Buy a used one and see if you like it, if not sell it for the same $$. If you do like it, keep it or sell it and order a new one you want. I'm a big fan of Spyderco and feel they have a model that will rival any semi-custom production knife maker at a fraction of the cost.

Cheers!

I am a big Spyderco guy too and own several but the OP was asking about Striders. I really am not familiar with a Spyderco model that is as overbuilt as a Strider with it's thick titanium framelock, stout S30v blade and oversized pivot.

 

[Ankerson]

I'm a big fan of Spyderco and feel they have a model that will rival any semi-custom production knife maker at a fraction of the cost.

Cheers!

You are really dreaming there dude or on some serious drugs.....

Anything Sypderco makes isn't even on the same planet as Strider or the Semi Custom knives out there so lets try and keep it real.

I am a big Spyderco guy too and own several but the OP was asking about Striders. I really am not familiar with a Spyderco model that is as overbuilt as a Strider with it's thick titanium framelock, stout S30v blade and oversized pivot.

Exactly. :thumbup:

 

[Buffalohump]

Overbuilt is overrated..... :yawn:

A knife that will slice is far more useful than a knife that will function as a prybar. If you want to pry, buy a prybar!

I am a big Spyderco guy too and own several but the OP was asking about Striders. I really am not familiar with a Spyderco model that is as overbuilt as a Strider with it's thick titanium framelock, stout S30v blade and oversized pivot.

 

[mmarkh]

Overbuilt is overrated..... :yawn:

A knife that will slice is far more useful than a knife that will function as a prybar. If you want to pry, buy a prybar!

The line you quoted was refering to when Hawk45 said that there was a Spyderco that would rival any semi custom knife out there. My point was that Spyderco doesn't really offer that sort of overbuilt type knife that will take almost anything you throw at it. My Manix is very strong but I wouldn't put it in the same class as a SNG.

 

[Biginboca]

My Manix is very strong but I wouldn't put it in the same class as a SNG.

You wouldn't but others like me might put them in the same class. The SNG has no front side liner to support it's fat pivot. Would a stronger pivot weakly supported make for an overall stronger assembly than a weaker pivot fully supported with 2 metal liners and a metal backspacer... Who knows?!?!

Unless someone wants to measure the failure strengths of all these knives then we are just arguing opinions. And we know what those are like.

Bottom line is that most any knife priced above $100 from the reputable makers that is marketed as being strong is going to do the job. The rest is just opinions and preferences...

 

[Buffalohump]

Its all a pissing contest.... a knife is not a tool that requires a great deal of strength. It is the edge that does most of the work.

Possibly the toughest job you can ask of a knife is to skin an animal, and as any hunter will tell you, it is not the lock that makes the difference, but the slicing ability and edge holding properties that will get the job done.

A thinner edge reduces the effort required to cut through the object at hand. A thick blade makes any job harder.

People think they are getting more because the manufacturer can charge more if they throw the kitchen sink in there.

Paying more for a knife doesn't make it a better cutter.

 

[tjsulli790]

Overbuilt is overrated..... :yawn:

A knife that will slice is far more useful than a knife that will function as a prybar. If you want to pry, buy a prybar!

Seriously? Have you seen anybody actually post here saying they bought a Strider to use as a pry bar?

There are several advantages to SNG other than it's thick blade stock (great ergos, TI/S30V/G10, very strong yet surprisingly light, the warranty, good resale value, etc.)

This whole prying notion never even crossed my mind when I decided to purchase a SNG. It just baffles me why that continues to get brought up as it's prime function. My Benchmade Rukus is just as thick as my SNG is, is it just a pry bar as well?

 

[So-Lo]

Paying more for a knife doesn't make it a better cutter.

Word Brother,

I have a CV Case Soddie Jr that will outcut my whole Tact-T Kool collection Its not as fun as the SnG... But man can that sucker cut

 

[tjsulli790]

Its all a pissing contest.... a knife is not a tool that requires a great deal of strength. It is the edge that does most of the work.

Possibly the toughest job you can ask of a knife is to skin an animal, and as any hunter will tell you, it is not the lock that makes the difference, but the slicing ability and edge holding properties that will get the job done.

A thinner edge reduces the effort required to cut through the object at hand. A thick blade makes any job harder.

People think they are getting more because the manufacturer can charge more if they throw the kitchen sink in there.

Paying more for a knife doesn't make it a better cutter.

As a hunter I can tell you I would never try to clean an animal with a thin edged thin knife. There is too many cases where slight lateral stress is put on the knife (trying to reach areas between guts and the ribcage) or accidental impacts against bone.

And to be honest when skinning an animal, first and foremost knowing what you're doing is the most important. Second is the blade shape and size. Blade stock and edge holding abilities is not one of the main concerns. A slightly thicker blade is not going to make a task harder, and if it does it certainly isn't enough to make a discernible difference.

 

[mmarkh]

As a hunter I can tell you I would never try to clean an animal with a thin edged thin knife. There is too many cases where slight lateral stress is put on the knife (trying to reach areas between guts and the ribcage) or accidental impacts against bone.

And to be honest when skinning an animal, first and foremost knowing what you're doing is the most important. Second is the blade shape and size. Blade stock and edge holding abilities is not one of the main concerns. A slightly thicker blade is not going to make a task harder, and if it does it certainly isn't enough to make a discernible difference.

This is very true. My fixed blade custom I use to gut deer is 3/16 inch thick and flat ground and it cuts and slices through everything I throw at it. I also chop through the pelvis with it. I like strong knives and that is why I like that knife, my Sebenza and Striders also. Every tool has it's purpose.

 

[Ankerson]

Seriously? Have you seen anybody actually post here saying they bought a Strider to use as a pry bar?

There are several advantages to SNG other than it's thick blade stock (great ergos, TI/S30V/G10, very strong yet surprisingly light, the warranty, good resale value, etc.)

This whole prying notion never even crossed my mind when I decided to purchase a SNG. It just baffles me why that continues to get brought up as it's prime function. My Benchmade Rukus is just as thick as my SNG is, is it just a pry bar as well?

That stuff always gets brought up about the more expensive knives like Strider and Busse because they are expensive so most of the ones who bash them can't afford them so they take shots at the companies every chance they get.

Stuff like pry bar, and can't cut etc is always brought up.

 

[Buffalohump]

What other purpose would there be to having a thick blade? What does lateral strength have to do with slicing ability? You can get those other features on knives costing a third of the price.

Seriously? Have you seen anybody actually post here saying they bought a Strider to use as a pry bar?

There are several advantages to SNG other than it's thick blade stock (great ergos, TI/S30V/G10, very strong yet surprisingly light, the warranty, good resale value, etc.)

This whole prying notion never even crossed my mind when I decided to purchase a SNG. It just baffles me why that continues to get brought up as it's prime function. My Benchmade Rukus is just as thick as my SNG is, is it just a pry bar as well?

 

[Buffalohump]

I've heard many a Strider and Busse fan talk about having to have their $400 knives reprofiled to get a better cutting edge.

That stuff always gets brought up about the more expensive knives like Strider and Busse because they are expensive so most of the ones who bash them can't afford them so they take shots at the companies every chance they get.

Stuff like pry bar, and can't cut etc is always brought up.

 

[stabman]

I've heard many a Strider and Busse fan talk about having to have their $400 knives reprofiled to get a better cutting edge.

Yeah, but that's because some of them want to be able to shave atoms.

 

[Hawk45]

That stuff always gets brought up about the more expensive knives like Strider and Busse because they are expensive so most of the ones who bash them can't afford them so they take shots at the companies every chance they get.

Stuff like pry bar, and can't cut etc is always brought up.

It's not a bash.. it's an opinion. That's what you get when you post on a forum. I've held all the knives mentioned and just didn't find anything $400 special about a the Strider. If you want one.. have at it. If they were $200 or less I'd think about one, but there are lots of "hard use" folders for less money that will do 99.9% of what I want a pocket folder to do.

I would like to hear the stuff that the Strider can do that other quality production knives can't if you can give examples.

 

[Ankerson]

I've heard many a Strider and Busse fan talk about having to have their $400 knives reprofiled to get a better cutting edge.

They usually put a convexed edge on them so they chop through 2x4's and logs faster, convexed edges chop better than standard edges do usually, it clears the wood faster talking larger chunks out. Depends on what they want really, I find that a standard 20 degree angle works fine for me on my Busse.

 

[Ankerson]

It's not a bash.. it's an opinion. That's what you get when you post on a forum. I've held all the knives mentioned and just didn't find anything $400 special about a the Strider. If you want one.. have at it. If they were $200 or less I'd think about one, but there are lots of "hard use" folders for less money that will do 99.9% of what I want a pocket folder to do.

I would like to hear the stuff that the Strider can do that other quality production knives can't if you can give examples.

There really aren't a lot of real hard use folders on the market by the way and all of them that really are cost over $200 for the most part. There are a few exceptions like the cheaper ZT folders, but they are marketed as HD knives and built that way.

 

[knerd]

Put a $400 price tag on the Spyderco and you'd want that just as much as the Strider.. I think a lot of it has to do with just saying.. I have a "insert knife name here" that cost $400.. and your mind rationalizes it that if it wasn't $400 it wouldn't do what it can do. It all comes down to a "want" factor.. and the more it is out of your reach.. the more you want it.. knives, guns, motorcycles, women.. you name it. It's our nature. But trust me, once you open the box and play with it for a day.. you'll be back on here with another "which should I get" post.

Buy a used one and see if you like it, if not sell it for the same $$. If you do like it, keep it or sell it and order a new one you want. I'm a big fan of Spyderco and feel they have a model that will rival any semi-custom production knife maker at a fraction of the cost.

Cheers!

Maybe that's the case for you, but I go for designs that I like. If I could get an SNG for a much cheaper price I guarantee you I'd have one right now. I agree there are individuals that will yearn for the more expensive items just to say they have them, but making a generalization that that's everyone's motive is just ridiculous.

People love to hate the SNG, because they're expecting too much from a knife. People fail to realize that just because the knife is expensive that doesn't mean it can do everything. Expectations are too high due to the high price point. Now if the SNG was a couple hundred dollars less expensive it'd probably be getting a lot more praise.

 

[T.K.C.]

I am personally quite fond of the SNG CC. THAT is one awesome knife.

 

[Kaizen1]

In my view, spending that much on a folder makes it a luxury item. Knives costing 1/3 or 1/2 as much will cut just as good. I have one, and I like it, but it won't go through a piece of cheese any better than an Endura. In fact, maybe not as well given its prybar profile. The SNG will pry better than an Endura, but you might not want to do that with a folder anyway.

So its a good knife, but don't expect it to perform 2.5x better than a Military or whatever. JMO.

The thing about this is, I recently bought a $17 Gerber and it performs just fine with 440A steel. So one can argue that anything above that is a "luxury item." Let's not fool ourselves, easily 99% of the quality knives on the market are appealing to wants and not needs. Some wants just cost more than others. An Opinel can cost $5-$10 shipped and it will out-slice an Endura and a Military in the cheese department.