Some Mid-Autumn Foraging

Mistwalker

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I really love autumn, especially the first half...maybe that's why it always seems to fly by and be so short lived. I spend the entirety of the other three seasons looking forward to it. The temps cool off, the bugs thin out, there is lots of tinder material for starting fires, and for a little while wild edibles abound.

The autumn colors are pretty awesome around here.

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One of my favorite dry weather tinder materials is horse weed after the bright yellow flowers have turn to a beige fibrous fuzz. Between the dried fuzz of the flower heads and dried leaves on the stalk getting a fire started with a lighter, matches, or a ferro rod is a cinch.

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My favorite wet weather tinder is the highly flammable resinous pitch-wood we have in such abundance here.

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Plus there is always the tinder you make yourself. I was really impressed here. This is hard season hickory, and that's a factory edge...

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The abundance of wild edibles here is one of the reasons I love this area so much. The wild grapes and muscadines are some of my favorites.

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The passion fruit, or ocoee that the Ocoee River Valley is named after is pretty darned good too

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As are the persimmons...once the frost has hit good and they become much less tannic, just watch the pits.

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Autumn olives are good once good and ripe.

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Onions are readily available this time of year and will get bigger as the cold season continues. Best to whittle a digging stick, pulling them will usually only break them, and digging with a knife will dull the edge.

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Can you recognize this...

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Without these being present?

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Or this...

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if all you can see is the seed heads of the plantain protruding above the leaves?

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I prefer them cooked, seasoned with some wild garlic and some sort of fatty meat...but with the juices of the berries, and minced berries, you'd have a dressing of sorts for flavoring and you'd have the makings of a passable salad by this point.




Though they may look much like tomatoes, because they are in the same family, these are NOT the cherry tomatoes you'll want to put on your wilderness salad or in your survival stew. This member of the nightshade family tends to be more toxic than tomatoes. Some of this bright yellow fruit will still be right here when next spring comes. If the animals don't eat it...

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The animals can help make you aware of edibles though. Squirrels aren't exactly stealthy eaters, and their litter will let you know what's available in an area. I happen to love hickory nuts, they can just be labor intensive to eat, and watch for worm holes.

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Watch out when gathering, these things can really hurt when they hit you in the head coming from way up high.

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I like black walnuts much more than hickory nuts, they're one of my favorite cold weather snacks. A good sized rock makes a good nut cracker and having a good point to work with helps things along. That's one of the big reasons I settled on the BK-17 when I finally made up my mind on which “tweener”.

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I need to research these sawtooth oak acorns a little more. They look a lot like chestnuts, taste a lot less tannic than other acorns I've tried, and they are prized by the animals to the point that these took fifteen minutes of scrounging to find these. They may be good for making acorn flour.

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It took a quarter of an hour two find two of the sawtooth acorns, yet large acorns from white oak trees are still easy to find.

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Galls can be good places to find fishing bait, fish like the larvae inside...and some could be a source of protein in a pinch.

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Just to throw this out there...these guys really don't taste all that great...but are better than nothing. I have wounded them while they were eating with an improvised spear and then finished them off before. BUT I'll have to be that hungry all over again before I'll do it again...next time I may just scare them off and take their carrion...

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Anyway, with a little knowledge, and a good eye, you can have a decent haul in a short period of time.

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Another reason I like my MSR pot is that it works well as a sealed protective container when foraging.

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Your threads are some of the very best mist, and for good reason. A prime example right here. Good stuff.
 
great info mistwalker i never realized all the edibles you can find in the mtns. around our area!
 
Great pictures, mistwalker. And you say you don't like Horse Nettle??? :confused: :D

BTW, do you find the 17's handle big enough for your hands?

Doc
 
Man you got a bunch of food in that pot. I ate a wild persimmon last saturday and it was sweet and almost like and orange.
Good post.
 
First of all, thanks for sharing.

Two questions: Is picture 2 Virginia Creeper and is picture 3 poison Ivy? The two often confuse me and I've heard that for what ever reason Poison Ivy is more prone to having five leaves these days in what seems like a more common occurrence. In time, it will be nice when the guide books are updated with better resolution pictures.

Thanks for sharing!
 
Brian, I always love your threads. Great pictures, great information, and always well written.


How are you liking the 17? Is it just what you were expecting?
 
Good stuff, Mist.

I've tasted passion fruit, but haven't eaten a lot of it. It's pretty seedy. Do you eat around the seeds or just go for the juice?
 
WOW......I want a framed picture of the moss at the base of the tree.......A GREAT post........Informative, usefull and visually stunning.....

What a great night to be hanging out here......Mist and Doc both with fantastic threads......GREAT stuff......

Thanks Brian ..........

Ethan.......

Ps tried to call......was late......call in am....
 
Really awesome post, I had no idea you could eat black walnut. My folks have well over a dozen really large black walnut trees at the back of their property. I might have to stroll back next time I'm there and see what I can find. Incredibly informative post :thumbup:
 
Great thread! i really enjoy your foraging posts, even though your the only person i ever heard call a may pop an ocoee, seems thats a tennessee cherokee indian thing :) great pictures thanks!
Im not big on dandelions, real bitter except the flower tops, plantain isnt bad though. Do you leech your acorns? im ok with the whites but others get too tannic after 1 or 2..

Oh and i have no idea how you kept your hands so clean playing with those black walnuts. they are used to make dye, and can get your hands real dirty quik.


Swonut; 2nd pic is virgina creeper 5 leaves, poison ivy 3. poison ivy does look different in different areas, the color and shape of leaves do change, but normally keep the leaves of 3 to be true. Virginia creeper and poison ivy often grow close by one another.
 
Dude, your woods are FULL of food!
We have acorns and dandelions and wild onions/garlic-chives... But in November? All gone but for the acorns. Do you boil them?
GREAT pictures, thanks for posting!
 
First of all, thanks for sharing.

Two questions: Is picture 2 Virginia Creeper and is picture 3 poison Ivy? The two often confuse me and I've heard that for what ever reason Poison Ivy is more prone to having five leaves these days in what seems like a more common occurrence. In time, it will be nice when the guide books are updated with better resolution pictures.

Thanks for sharing!

In picture 2 it looks like there is both Poison Ivy and Virginia Creeper. In picture 3 it looks like just Poison Ivy.

Where did you hear that Poison Ivy has 5 leaflets? That would be quite the anomaly! Poison Ivy (Toxicodendron spp.) has 3 leaflets, Virginia Creeper (Parthenocissus spp.) usually has 5.

Doc
 
Great thread Misty, thank you.

I think I'll have to stroll through Spring Wood this weekend and see if I can spot anything tempting!

How are you finding the BK17? I finally snapped and ordered my 16 last night.....it was an incredibly hard choice choosing between the two.
I was worried about how the clip on the 17 might scare the sheeple too much. I hope I've made the right choice.

Happy hunting and enjoy the fruits of the season!
 
This is an awesome thread. Great pictures and information, thanks.

Great pictures! Cool thread. Thanks

Amazing my friend. Excellent post and pics!

Always cool reading your threads...Great pics too.


Thanks guys, I'm really glad you enjoyed it.



Your threads are some of the very best mist, and for good reason. A prime example right here. Good stuff.

Thanks for the compliments bro, I'm glad you like the post.



great info mistwalker i never realized all the edibles you can find in the mtns. around our area!

Oh yeah, there is much more than I have shown in this post.



Great pictures, mistwalker. And you say you don't like Horse Nettle??? :confused: :D

BTW, do you find the 17's handle big enough for your hands?

Doc

Actually...in all honesty I think I “like” horse nettle a lot...or at the very least I seem to be fascinated by the plant. However I do still have enough sense not to eat it :)

The 17 fits my hand just fine. I can take a few pics of it in hand while I'm out today if you like, I'll be needing to do that for a review of it anyway.



Man you got a bunch of food in that pot. I ate a wild persimmon last saturday and it was sweet and almost like and orange.
Good post.

Yeah, lots of stuff to munch on here in the late summer and early autumn. I love persimmons after the frost...before the frost the tannic acids make them pretty rough to deal with, but the coyotes seem to love them even early in the season.


First of all, thanks for sharing.

Two questions: Is picture 2 Virginia Creeper and is picture 3 poison Ivy? The two often confuse me and I've heard that for what ever reason Poison Ivy is more prone to having five leaves these days in what seems like a more common occurrence. In time, it will be nice when the guide books are updated with better resolution pictures.

Thanks for sharing!

Glad you enjoyed the post man.

The plant with the maroon leaves in pic 2 is Virginia Creeper, and the plant with the green leaves is poison Ivy. In pic 3 the green and the yellow leaves are all poison ivy as it had just begun to turn color. Perhaps I should edit that in

Poison ivy could easily be our regional “flower” here, I have been aware of it all my life and in taking detailed pics of it for the toxic plant section of my website the last couple of years I have had up close looks at hundreds of vines of it in various stages of growth from early growth through the flowering and berry stages and into the fall of the autumn leaves. I don't recall any anomalies of more than three leaves.

One of the things that concerns me with virginia creeper is that some people confuse the berries with grapes even though the leaves look nothing like grape leaves. Virginia creeper berries have oxalic acid in them which is somewhat toxic to humans. I have some good pics of the berries here somewhere, I'll try to find them and edit those in too.



Brian, I always love your threads. Great pictures, great information, and always well written.


How are you liking the 17? Is it just what you were expecting?

Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it.

I'm liking it just fine. I had the good fortune of watching as the tweeners developed before they went into production so yes it's exactly as I expected. It took me a while to decide which one I wanted more, but in the end the beefier spine and pointier tip of the BK-17 won out for most of my uses.



Good stuff, Mist.

I've tasted passion fruit, but haven't eaten a lot of it. It's pretty seedy. Do you eat around the seeds or just go for the juice?

Thanks man. I eat it much like I eat pomegranate, eat the meat and juice out from around the seeds and spit the seeds out. In the early stages the white pith like substance lining the inside around the undeveloped seeds tastes pretty good to me too.



WOW......I want a framed picture of the moss at the base of the tree.......A GREAT post........Informative, usefull and visually stunning.....

What a great night to be hanging out here......Mist and Doc both with fantastic threads......GREAT stuff......

Thanks Brian ..........

Ethan.......

Ps tried to call......was late......call in am....

Thank you sir, I'm glad you enjoyed the post! I try to post something useful now and then :) I'm pretty sure that photo is in high enough resolution to print out fairly large, if you like it Christmas is coming up. Doc's threads are always impressive, I wish I had a big bowl of those rose hips right now, could make a nice sauce for some broiled salmon. Good talking to you this morning, always a pleasure!



Really awesome post, I had no idea you could eat black walnut. My folks have well over a dozen really large black walnut trees at the back of their property. I might have to stroll back next time I'm there and see what I can find. Incredibly informative post :thumbup:

The hulls need to be dark so that the nut inside has mellowed a bit, but they are awesome and have a whole lot more flavor than English walnuts in my opinion. I love them in banana nut bread, and just to much on when I am out in the woods. I have huge oak trees on my land, but I always bring home big boxes of black walnuts in the winter just to scatter in the woods out back too to keep my squirrels fattened up...just in case I need to stop watching them play and eat them some day in the future...



Great thread! i really enjoy your foraging posts, even though your the only person i ever heard call a may pop an ocoee, seems thats a tennessee cherokee indian thing :) great pictures thanks!
Im not big on dandelions, real bitter except the flower tops, plantain isnt bad though. Do you leech your acorns? im ok with the whites but others get too tannic after 1 or 2..

Oh and i have no idea how you kept your hands so clean playing with those black walnuts. they are used to make dye, and can get your hands real dirty quik.


Swonut; 2nd pic is virgina creeper 5 leaves, poison ivy 3. poison ivy does look different in different areas, the color and shape of leaves do change, but normally keep the leaves of 3 to be true. Virginia creeper and poison ivy often grow close by one another.

Thank you very much! Yes, it's definitely a Cherokee thing...but I have a lot of Cherokee in my blood :D Plus it's a whole lot easier to write than Passiflora Incarnata . I'm curious, do you know why they are called “may pops”? Hint; it has nothing to do with the month of May.

I have really only just begun studies in leaching acorns and making acorn flower...started years ago, but still only just begun. Seems life and fatherhood always having me occupied and I forget things like that. I understand the concepts involved enough I think I could manage in a pinch. Even the whites need to be leached, the tannic acids are hard on the liver and kidneys from my research.

Well...I have been eating them for a very long time and know to have something to wipe my hands on :), but if you look close at the pic of me holding those five in my hand my finger tips are stained.



Dude, your woods are FULL of food!
We have acorns and dandelions and wild onions/garlic-chives... But in November? All gone but for the acorns. Do you boil them?
GREAT pictures, thanks for posting!


Jeez, you live in New England, I'm surprised all isn't snow covered by November :) I live in a temperate rain forest, the amount of plant life...as well as pollen...is amazing to a lot of people that come here. The greens or the acorns? As for the boiling.



Great thread Misty, thank you.

I think I'll have to stroll through Spring Wood this weekend and see if I can spot anything tempting!

How are you finding the BK17? I finally snapped and ordered my 16 last night.....it was an incredibly hard choice choosing between the two.
I was worried about how the clip on the 17 might scare the sheeple too much. I hope I've made the right choice.

Happy hunting and enjoy the fruits of the season!


Thanks Scruff, really glad you enjoyed the post. Looking on the map, that spring wood of yours looks like a fun place to wander!

I'm liking the BK-17 a lot. The shape didn't worry me here...over here mostly it's size that tends to scare the sheeple more so than shape. Buck and other companies have made hunting knives with similar clips for most of my life so no biggie. Where you are I understand the thought though. I thought and thought before I made the decision. In the end my love of the black walnuts and my liking to bore small holes for water filtration systems made the decision for me.
 
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