Some 'new-to-flipper' impressions

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Not long ago I started a thread about the ZT 0452CF, more broadly about the ease of deployment of flippers vs blade-mounted stud deployment generally. The ZT 0452CF caught my interest and shortly thereafter I found and purchased one at the Exchange from a fellow member[ thanks Blake!] I thought this thread would be a good follow up where that thread left off, sharing some impressions through the lens of a 'first flipper' and the ZT 0452CF specifically.

First, the aesthetics of the ZT 0452CF are unimpeachable and particularly gratifying at the price point. Some have found the ZT 0452CF handle too thin or narrow for larger hands, I have large mitts myself but did not find that to be the case, rather I found the grip/ frame comfortable and robust enough to anchor such a large blade[ 4"]. The blade of my example came shaving sharp and the blade shoulders seemed to my eye perfectly aligned. Though I myself am partial to G10 as a handle material this felt reasonably secure in the hand.

I found the action and deployment couldn't be smoother or more positive. I originally questioned my own comfort level in deploying such a flipper under less than ideal situations[ cold, rain etc]. I now see that the flipper is no less certain than any other folding knife mechanism in terms of deployment, and this is example is crisp and solid. An interesting design feature- it requires a kind of specific grip in order to properly release the blade and flip the knife open.

I discovered this by trial and error, at first thinking the knife had a lock-bar flaw. It does not. The knife seems to require your finger position in the channel on the reverse side of the grip. An incorrect grip will [ in my limited experience with the knife] result in it appearing 'locked' closed, like the lock-bar had failed.

I seem to remember reading about this design feature somewhere on-line but I can't recall where. Again and to be clear, the ZT 0452CF lives up to it's hype in my view both asthetically and as a tool. For such a big folder it carries very stealthily in the pocket. The overall finish is equally well done and the fit of the package is likewise excellent.

But I believe the ZT 0452CF requires a 'correct' grip in order for it to be deployed 100% of the time.I'd be very interested to hear from other owners of the ZT 0452CF to see if your experience mirrors my own in terms of grip.

By the way, I'd considered replacing the smallish pocket clip with a larger version I found on-line. Before placing the order I thought to check to see how difficult it would be to remove the pocket clip screws- I'm glad I did! After several committed attempts I couldn't budge those clip screws a white. Anyone else have a problem removing the pocket clip ?

The pics below are from the original listing, I'll post others shortly.









 
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0452 is an excellent knife! Glad you're warming up to yours.

You're right about an adjustment of flipping technique. A lot of people complained about detent strength and lockbar sensitivity, faulting the knife itself. Good on you for working with it rather than giving up.

 
That 452CF is a beautiful folder. I've been looking at it for some time, but haven't jumped yet. I would just get the 0450, but it's a bit too short, at 4.1", for my hand. Very nice pics, BTW.
I agree that the clip could be quite a bit larger, enough to go across the lockbar cutout area.
Not sure that I need that long of a blade. Might be nice of ZT to make a cross-over 0451 with 3.5" blade and closed length of 4.7".
:)
Carbon fiber or not, I'd love one.
 
All frame locks require a specific grip, flippers or not. It is not just the 0452. However the 0452 does have a rather strong detent, and therefore may be a bit more sensitive to improper grip than some others with a weaker detent. Also the 0452 has such a narrow frame, that finger placement must be more specific than some other frame locks with a much wider frame.
 
I take your point but the 0452 seems to have a very particular sensitivity that. I have never before experienced this exact phenomena. Again, one might jump to the conclusion that it was a defect were you not aware.
Don't get me wrong this takes NOTHING away from the knife in my view, but it does seem to me to be an identifiable idyosyncrocy of the model.


All frame locks require a specific grip, flippers or not. It is not just the 0452. However the 0452 does have a rather strong detent, and therefore may be a bit more sensitive to improper grip than some others with a weaker detent. Also the 0452 has such a narrow frame, that finger placement must be more specific than some other frame locks with a much wider frame.
 
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There have been quite a few posts where guys are talking about ZT's new design of the detent. There is some consensus that it will "break in" after some exercise, but a few pretty experienced fellows had to send theirs in to ZT to take care of the "too-heavy" detent problem.
 
Sonnydaze,
i'm not sure I'd identify what I'm describing as a 'problem'. As I mentioned, correct hand position results in 100% operation, smooth as glass.

There have been quite a few posts where guys are talking about ZT's new design of the detent. There is some consensus that it will "break in" after some exercise, but a few pretty experienced fellows had to send theirs in to ZT to take care of the "too-heavy" detent problem.
 
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