Some quench oil questions

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Which is better motor oil or parks 50?

Kidding.

What are some good ways to pre-heat your oil other than sticking in a red hot poker? I have a 3 gallon vertical pipe as my tank.

And... Where to get some houghto-quench "k"?
 
I use a bucket heater made by Allied Precision. Before I came across it I was considering using a heating element for a water heater, they can be bought for fairly cheap if you can't find a junked electric water heater with an intact element.
 
I have a lare pot I quench in and use a butane burner and bottle,aka turkey fryer.
Stan
 
I've been heating mine with heated steel and sucking in the smoke is getting old. I'm going to try a water heater element this week, wish me luck. I would also like some good suggestions from the group.
 
If you are using Parks 50, you don't even have to heat it this time of year unless you live in the Himalayas.;) Remember that unlike other slower oils, you don't want to heat it above say 120 degrees anyway. Oils have a "sweet spot" and the listed range for #50 is 70-130F IIRC. Tough Quench is like 120-180 and it is fastest at around 150 and starts to slow down above or below that. The only time I have to heat #50 is in January down here.
 
I use two types - Tex A and Pks 50 - and have a tank for each.
Each on its own cart to roll to the work spot or storage.
Ol' cheap double electric burner will heat the volume up to whatever temp while I clean the blades up.
In my shop it can be -10 on a January morning, so it's necessary.
A little different than St. Pete.
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I use an old ( new)water heater element and it works great takes about 15 min to get to temp lots easier than the hot steel. The Houghto quench K can be bought from the local distributor I talk whit one around here last week and for 5 gal. it was 175.00 plus 20 -40 for shipping . They were great people to talk with and said there was a recent price increase. They clam its the best oil ( better than parks) at that price it should be.....Steve
 
This is a good discussion and a lot of good advice being shared here because the gentle and gradual methods of heating the oils that are being offered are much better (both for the oil and yourself) than using massive super heated objects to do the job. I do understand and still do just heat up a large piece of steel to accomplish the task in a pinch (on the road doing demos), but I am always careful to keep the smoking to a minimum and never allow flames. While the very act of quenching steel in excess of 1400F is the purpose of the oil, it also is what much of the special engineering in these products was aimed to overcome the destructive effects of.

If you are using the appropriate amount of oil for the volume of steel you are quenching, there will not be a rise in quenchant temperature as it will be doing its job effectively. Using a large block of overheated steel intentionally exceeds the quenchants ability to cool and thus heats things up, this is not a problem so long as it is kept under tight control. But the vast amounts of vapor and oxidizing by using very high temperatures in mass will eventually shorten the life of the oil, and flashing it certainly will (not to mention what breathing all that unnecessary smoke does for your lifespan).

A gentle warming provided by the devices mentioned here are just the ticket to accomplish the task without the above mentioned issues. Since I only oil quench my smaller blades, as I have mentioned before I use a large portable roasting pan for my quench container, then all I have to do is set the dial to the desire pre-wa ming temp and go, and it comes with its own handy and stylish cover.
 
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