Someone mistreated my knife.

[Brisket]

It is for all the knife ignorant co-workers, in-laws and friends out there that I generally carry a 2nd beater/loaner knife.

 

[Kyle_4]

The whole macho thing of a full arm swing can also send the knife flying out of his hand. Would you laugh at standing in front of that?

He never made mention of a full arm swing or that he was standing in front of the knife when it was opened. I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion???

 

[KennyB]

People sure do think steel and metal is delicate. It will be fine!

 

[AntDog]

I've since learned it's easier to just not let people I don't trust even see my knives.

That's exactly what I do. I work with a bunch of guys who buy the jin yooooo wine bôoooo weeeee knafs and they are troglodytes when it comes to things like that. I just discretely carry and they are none the wiser. The last time I let somebody borrow my knife up there it was a benchmade skirmish and before I knew what was going on he was scraping the gasket off of a thermostat housing with it. The funny thing is that the next day I sold that knife to him! (At a good profit) He routinely uses it to cut green scotchbrite pads in half. He sharpens it with coarse sandpaper and wonders why he can't get it sharp. It's a damned shame. That knife looks like a destroyed pos now. It as the limited edition with the blue handle and black blade. I die a little inside every time I see it.

 

[RedLynx]

That's exactly what I do. I work with a bunch of guys who buy the jin yooooo wine bôoooo weeeee knafs and they are troglodytes when it comes to things like that. I just discretely carry and they are none the wiser. The last time I let somebody borrow my knife up there it was a benchmade skirmish and before I knew what was going on he was scraping the gasket off of a thermostat housing with it. The funny thing is that the next day I sold that knife to him! (At a good profit) He routinely uses it to cut green scotchbrite pads in half. He sharpens it with coarse sandpaper and wonders why he can't get it sharp. It's a damned shame. That knife looks like a destroyed pos now. It as the limited edition with the blue handle and black blade. I die a little inside every time I see it.

I think he should care for it more and certainly learn more about sharpening, but I have to say part of me is glad a fine piece like that is getting some good, hard use. I too had a Skirmish I sold (not a LE though) and now that I can't get one anymore I sorta miss it. Big bruiser of a knife for sure.

 

[stog75]

Open it, then close it. Does it work? If so, it's ok. Don't overthink it.

Dry firing a revolver won't hurt it if they have a transfer bar. Most modern revolvers do. I have always heard it is bad to dry fire revolvers that have the firing pin attached to the hammer. My grandpa who was a gunsmith said the pin would eventually break off. Spinning the cylinder and whacking it shut while spinning is a definite no no. It messes up the pawl and hand. Spinning the cylinder with the cylinder out is ok if the gun is blued. If it is stainless, the metal will gall and eventually get squeaky and rough.

What AntDog said...you know your own knife better than anybody. How does function now compared to how it did before you handed it over to your friend. Check the blade for wiggle or rock. Check the lock for a loose spring or retainer. SAFELY test the axis lock to see if it holds. Shake it to hear if you have a rattle. Im not familiar with your knife but try inspecting the stop pin if it has one. Any deformation? If you cannot detect a difference then by all accounts and measures you should be good to go. As everyone said before, benchmades are rock solid and can take a lot more abuse than you think.

Best of luck to you man.

 

[dkb45]

If he flicked the Adamas hard enough to damage it, I must ask why you decided to lend the Hulk a knife?

So long as you don't make a habit of flailing to open the knife, a few times won't do any serious damage, especially not an axis lock knife.

 

[SixStringSamurai]

I know a lot of people carry several knives on them everyday. I don't know why they do, but I'll tell you why I do: its to have a loaner when someone asks to borrow a knife. At work, my Spydie Salt I stays in my pocket until I need it, but my SOG powerlock has a nifty little blade with a lock and a nail nick that I let others use. I have absolutely no care about breaking or dulling it, because the blade itself easily replaced for like $5, but more to the point, I don't ever use it. Its the only tool in the powerlock that I chose for other people. Sure, they notice that the super quick hi-lighter yellow one hand opener gets used all the time, but since I have the loaner, no one seems to feel snubbed. They feel like they got to use a piece of hardcore hardware, cuz ya'know, I'm THAT guy.

 

[Jason B.]

This can't be serious?

 

[stabman]

The knife will be fine.

However, it would still piss me off, as I do not go around full arm slamming my knives open.
I got that out of the way by the time I was 17.

So, in order to avoid stress at suppressing the urge to kick people in the balls so hard they rupture, I just don't lend out my knives to anyone.
Ever.

They can buy their own damn knife and treat it however they want.

 

[Blackie Scantling]

This leads to a next question not worth a new thread. Can a folder made by any reputable company be damaged by opening it too hard?

 

[stabman]

This leads to a next question not worth a new thread. Can a folder made by any reputable company be damaged by opening it too hard?

You can certainly get vertical blade play.
Doesn't destroy the knife, but it's annoying.

 

[dkb45]

You can certainly get vertical blade play.
Doesn't destroy the knife, but it's annoying.

Well, if the knife already has a problem missed by QC, like a crack in the tang of a folder with an integral stop pin, it could break. Or a surface defect allowing the blade to rust from the inside. Both are incredibly rare occurrences, though. No point worrying about them happening.

Most likely a hard opening can deform the blade stop, allowing a little bit of vertical play. Usually the stop pins can just be rotated to alleviate this, but if the knife has thumb stud stops not much can be done.

 

[bdmicarta]

This leads to a next question not worth a new thread. Can a folder made by any reputable company be damaged by opening it too hard?

I have heard that some of the expensive brands will void the warranty because of this.

The person that asked to see the knife and then treated it improperly, how would he react if you asked to borrow his wife/GF/SO to be treated the way you want to? Or to take his car for a drive, maybe to pick up a load of manure for your garden or something like that?

Some people just have problems with other peoples possessions. Like people that get in your car and immediately want to start messing with the AC controls or the radio. Or people that want to use your computer or phone and start moving things around and reconfiguring things.

 

[NorthernSouthpaw]

What it seems that we are forgetting here while getting our dander up, Is that the "friend" the op mentioned is not likely a knife guy. So a person who is new to knives himself hands over his new prized possession most likely to show it off and the buddy does what he's seen countless times on tv and movies. He snaps it out with a flourish, probably thinking that is how its done. now after relaying this we all go apes#!% about how you should never loan out your knife, or carry a spare beater to hand over when someone sees your other blade and asks to use it, or be a "jerk" and just say no.

What needs to be remembered is that WE are the minority in all these situations and by behaving this way we are perpetuating all the stupid crap that is commonly believed by the masses. Or at the very least look like a total douche. I have carried a blade on me since I was 11 and only my closest friends knew I had it on me. This year after discovering, lurking, then joining BF I realized that as normal (in most cases) users its OUR job to educate the masses.

The best way to eliminate the stigma that only lunatics and rednecks carry knives and guns is to stop acting like one. Take a minute, ask why they need to use it and give a quick tutorial. This is how I do it now after discovering BF and educating myself here. I have actually converted my best friend using this method. and he actually never asked to borrow my knife. I took the initiative and instead of cutting what he asked I handed him my Benchmade 940.

You should be happy someone is reacting to your knife in a way that doesn't involve wide eyes and a quick step back.

Sorry for the ramble guys. just something thats been on my mind for a bit.

 

[stabman]

or be a "jerk" and just say no.

Yeah, I'll just keep on being that "jerk".
If something needs to be cut, I'll cut it for them (seeing as I have the knife).
If they cannot stand to have me cut it, it probably didn't really need to be cut anyway.

And if it needs to be pried, they can go ahead and use their keys...they damn sure won't be using my knife.

Also, I learned my lesson about lending out knives when a co-worker borrowed one...and then cut a hole in a 1500 pound bag of wheat.
Which I got blamed for...since I owned a knife and he didn't, it must have been me, right?

So yep, no one is borrowing my knife.
And if they think I'm a jerk, so what?

 

[knifeguy101]

I handed it to him, and he flung it open so hard it made a big snap when it opened. Do you think it's alright or should I have someone look at it?

If you're afraid of the loud snap upon opening I would steer clear of ZT....

 

[killgar]

What it seems that we are forgetting here while getting our dander up, Is that the "friend" the op mentioned is not likely a knife guy. So a person who is new to knives himself hands over his new prized possession most likely to show it off and the buddy does what he's seen countless times on tv and movies. He snaps it out with a flourish, probably thinking that is how its done. now after relaying this we all go apes#!% about how you should never loan out your knife, or carry a spare beater to hand over when someone sees your other blade and asks to use it, or be a "jerk" and just say no.

What needs to be remembered is that WE are the minority in all these situations and by behaving this way we are perpetuating all the stupid crap that is commonly believed by the masses. Or at the very least look like a total douche. I have carried a blade on me since I was 11 and only my closest friends knew I had it on me. This year after discovering, lurking, then joining BF I realized that as normal (in most cases) users its OUR job to educate the masses.

The best way to eliminate the stigma that only lunatics and rednecks carry knives and guns is to stop acting like one. Take a minute, ask why they need to use it and give a quick tutorial. This is how I do it now after discovering BF and educating myself here. I have actually converted my best friend using this method. and he actually never asked to borrow my knife. I took the initiative and instead of cutting what he asked I handed him my Benchmade 940.

You should be happy someone is reacting to your knife in a way that doesn't involve wide eyes and a quick step back.

Sorry for the ramble guys. just something thats been on my mind for a bit.

Who's acting like a "lunatic" or "redneck"? How is not lending ones valuable possessions to anyone who asks the same as acting like a "lunatic" or "redneck"?

I'm 44 years old, been carrying knives for most of that time, and I have never experienced any "stigma" as a result of carrying a knife, much less refusing to let others use my knife. So I don't feel any responsibility to eliminate any such stigma by lending my possessions out to anyone who asks. And even if such a stigma does exist, I don't see how freely lending out knives is going to change it. If a person asks to borrow a knife from someone, it obvious that they aren't afraid of knives or the people who carry them.

As far as providing a "quick tutorial" to anyone who wants to handle/use my knife, first of all, there is no guaranty that any such tutorial will prevent them from damaging or ruining my expensive knife. It also provides no guaranty that they won't cut themselves. You can "tutor" some people until you are blue in the face and they will still act like idiots. Also, I'm not going to drop whatever I may be doing to try and teach a person proper knife handling every time someone asks to borrow a knife.

I'll help a friend or family member if they need something cut, and I'll provide education on knives to people seeking education if I have the time, but I purchased my knives for MY OWN use, not as loaners for everyone else who can't be bothered to buy and carry their own. I purchased expensive knives because those just happened to be the knives I wanted. I'm not going to GAMBLE my expensive knives on the ability of other people to use/handle them properly. If you want to GAMBLE with your knives, that's your choice. But I think you are crossing the line when you criticize others for not wanting to gamble with THEIR knives.

I'd much rather "look like a total douche" than have someone ruin my $300 folder because they thought it would make a handy prybar or screwdriver. And if that causes the masses to think poorly of me, oh well. At least my knives won't get ruined.

 

[NorthernSouthpaw]

Who's acting like a "lunatic" or "redneck"? How is not lending ones valuable possessions to anyone who asks the same as acting like a "lunatic" or "redneck"?

I'm 44 years old, been carrying knives for most of that time, and I have never experienced any "stigma" as a result of carrying a knife, much less refusing to let others use my knife. So I don't feel any responsibility to eliminate any such stigma by lending my possessions out to anyone who asks. And even if such a stigma does exist, I don't see how freely lending out knives is going to change it. If a person asks to borrow a knife from someone, it obvious that they aren't afraid of knives or the people who carry them.

As far as providing a "quick tutorial" to anyone who wants to handle/use my knife, first of all, there is no guaranty that any such tutorial will prevent them from damaging or ruining my expensive knife. It also provides no guaranty that they won't cut themselves. You can "tutor" some people until you are blue in the face and they will still act like idiots. Also, I'm not going to drop whatever I may be doing to try and teach a person proper knife handling every time someone asks to borrow a knife.

I'll help a friend or family member if they need something cut, and I'll provide education on knives to people seeking education if I have the time, but I purchased my knives for MY OWN use, not as loaners for everyone else who can't be bothered to buy and carry their own. I purchased expensive knives because those just happened to be the knives I wanted. I'm not going to GAMBLE my expensive knives on the ability of other people to use/handle them properly. If you want to GAMBLE with your knives, that's your choice. But I think you are crossing the line when you criticize others for not wanting to gamble with THEIR knives.

I'd much rather "look like a total douche" than have someone ruin my $300 folder because they thought it would make a handy prybar or screwdriver. And if that causes the masses to think poorly of me, oh well. At least my knives won't get ruined.

I'm not talking about some schmuck at a bus stop. I'm referring to someone you happen to know on some level. And yes people view us as a bit crazy for toting a blade. Especially those that live in the northern coastlines. My post was about the big picture. Check out what Mr. Ritter has been doing the past few years and maybe you'll get the context. The knife community is small for a reason. We refer to the majority of folks out there as "sheeple" for a reason. Laws are being passed often, limiting knife rights.

So go ahead, keep that mentality and sooner rather than later you will be keeping that precious $300 knife at home as opposed to your pocket when you leave the house.

I'm just saying show some patience and understanding and maybe the people we educate help vote down knife legislation as opposed to voting for it.

 

[killgar]

I'm not talking about some schmuck at a bus stop. I'm referring to someone you happen to know on some level. And yes people view us as a bit crazy for toting a blade. Especially those that live in the northern coastlines. My post was about the big picture. Check out what Mr. Ritter has been doing the past few years and maybe you'll get the context. The knife community is small for a reason. We refer to the majority of folks out there as "sheeple" for a reason. Laws are being passed often, limiting knife rights.

What laws are being passed limiting knife rights? From what I keep seeing, many states are REPEALING their anti knife laws. For example- The Governor of Tennessee just signed a bill repealing the ban on ALL knives in his state, thereby making it legal to carry knives that were previously illegal. The Governors of other states have done the same. Several states have repealed their bans on the most "evil" knives of all- switchblades, thereby making it legal to carry them. Check out Kniferights.com, you can read all about the EXPANSION of knife rights in this country.

So go ahead, keep that mentality and sooner rather than later you will be keeping that precious $300 knife at home as opposed to your pocket when you leave the house.

What mentality is that? The mentality of not lending out my knives because I don't want other people ruining them? How exactly is not lending out my knives going to result in anti knife laws being passed? Heck, I've lived in California all my life, I've never loaned my knives to people, and yet, not only have there not been any new knife restrictions passed here in California during my lifetime, but California has actually EXPANDED knife rights in this state during the past few decades, and the expansion of those rights has been upheld by no less than the California Supreme Court.

So no, I just don't share your fear of anti knife laws being passed. I consider the fear of new knife laws being passed to be just as unreasonable as the fear of knives themselves.

I'm just saying show some patience and understanding and maybe the people we educate help vote down knife legislation as opposed to voting for it.

I don't see where I opposed showing patience and understanding. In fact, I clearly stated that I will take the time to educate people on knives. I don't equate patience and understanding with handing over my knives to anyone I "happen to know". Unfortunately, not all of the people I "happen to know" are people I would trust with my knives. I've known guys at work, and unfortunately some in my own extended family, who I wouldn't trust with a sharpened pencil.