Someone on BF disses my Basic #9

Originally posted by running bear
Owenm I would love to watch you chop down a tree with a knife. That way people could see how stupid you really are! Ever heard of a axe, or chainsaw?
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:DYep, got an axe (couple of them), got a chainsaw. I don't carry them camping, though sometimes I carry a hatchet, though it's not as versatile, if I think I'm going to be doing alot of chopping.

btw, I've chopped down a bunch of little trees with a knife, and a couple of not so little ones, for that matter.

Ever heard of a backpack? Tote a chainsaw in yours if you like (don't forget your fuel, bar/chain oil, spare chain, and a wrench):rolleyes: I like fires as much as the next guy, but I don't specialize in deforestation. Most of that stuff comes off the ground and just needs to be split. I'll take a hatchet or my Basic 9, depending on which I think I'll need more, thanks.
But what do I know....I'm the one that's stupid, right?
Like I said earlier--LMAO. You little know-it-all "experts on everything" kill me.
click, click, poof! Did you feel that? I took my own advice and you don't exist anymore:p Gotta love it...
bye, bye
 
Runningbear, I think that some of your concerns are valid.

The unfortunate thing is that most of our society buys into whatever crap the media feeds them. Guns - evil, "survival" guns - very evil, knives - bad, SURVIVAL knives - very bad. Actually, a case could be made for smalled bladed knives because they are..oooooh... concealable......

Please take this in the way it is offered.

Do a bit of research. Ask people who make their living teaching survival classes or military SERE classes about knife charateristics.

Blade length required is mandated by the set of objectives it will be used for. Granted, fighting knives are best well under 9", but knives which will be used in survival situations are best over 6".

Sometimes it is best to research something like this before confronting or insulting someone for their choice.

Hope this helps.

Mike
 
I am pretty well convinced that Running Bear has never owned a Basic 9, or maybe not any Busse's at all. Why? Because it is pointless to tell anyone who owns a Busse what they should or shouldn't do...period.
 
O.K. fine. If I buy a busse does my brain stop working like some of you? Why don't you sit and spin on the knives you all love so much, and yes I've had most of the busse knives in my hand. Not impressed.
 
Runningbear, I don't know what else to say to you.

I wish you luck in your quests.

Mike
 
thatmguy, and good luck to you. Enjoy your busse knives, and I'll enjoy my tomahawks which is where I'm going back to. Good night all.
 
Originally posted by running bear
Do you know him personaly? If someone is chopping down a tree with a knife it had better be in a survival situation. Or that person is really bored.
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I chopped down 5 trees today using this Busse. I wasn't in a survival situation, nor was I bored. I was too lazy to walk back to the house to grab one of the axes, and the trees weren't all that big - tall, but not too thick fir trees. Worked fine. (I was originally just going to mark the trees with the Busse, but then the INFI lust took over, and before I knew it, the trees were down. Ooops.)

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Wow... Looks like i got to the Friday night knife-party after the party's over... :p

A guy who slams Busse knives, other knife-owners, claims to have "held them" without actually using them (!) (cough, cough :rolleyes: ) then says "not impressed" & leaves without real dialogue: Hmmm. i've seen better trolls under bridges!
For the record, & for Blue Flint Hawk: That Busse #9er is a Great Purchase; one of the Best knife purchases that's ever been made, b'cuz one of the best knives that's ever been made.
If you don't know by experience as to the chopping ability of a Busse Knife, why fart all over others for it? it only shows your own lack of respect, courtesy, intelligence, experience, & confidence in your tools. Not exactly the way to "win friends & influence people"... :rolleyes: :barf:

Well, BFH - Good to hear you're still "active" in Busse Land! You now have a few lumps under your belt, due to the sadly ignorant comments of a stranger! Don't pay it too much energy: we will win in the end... Anyone who reads these forums knows the Busse crew IS informed, wise in their investments, intelligent, & almost always courteous to newcomers, even when THEY don't "play fair" at first.
Kill 'em with kindness, kid... it'll pay off in the end. {And the "kid" thing, that's for effect :) You're a true man in my eyes.}

INFI IS Forever, USE one and Experience the difference...
No one can take that away... :cool:
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BFH and others,
Is there even a problem here? Hummm....it's a sign of boredom when people bicker over trivial issues. Someone's opinion of the usefulness of a knife doesn't change the knife or how it will perform. Running teddy is entitled to say whatever he wants. I think he was right in someways. Smaller knives serve "most" knife users "best" on a daily basis. As I recall, RT didn't attack the quality and performance of busses. So what if he did though?...well Busse-knife owners/users....we know from experience that Busses performance exceeds the needs of most users. They offer a outstanding(IMO) product at a reasonable price.
Running Bear said:"It was an army ranger who I became friends with. If you don't understand watch the news there are plenty of people out there every day doing stupid things with guns, knives like commiting MURDER! Which all of us pay the price when the government looks this way and another stupid law is passed that takes away your RIGHTS! I don't what tomahawks to be the next Item to be something they want to take from us."
I think it is only fair not to question this man's integrity anymore(this makes me think of our beloved maker, Jerry...whose warranty is based upon not questioning the customer's integrity on whether the damage was intentional or not. Nor should we question the integrity of someone who differs in opinion). RB is right in wanting to retain our most basic freedoms of keeping and bearing arms(and knives, etc). But in the realm of whether or not the Basic 9 is a useful knife, his statement above is "pulpit pounding" (IMO) and just an opinion. Take it or leave it.
Running Bear's ranger friend has obviously found what works for what he does. However, I would not base my choice of cutlery on what one ranger/delta/marine/gb/seal said. I don't sneak up on bad guys and kill them, (but neither do most guys in the service). For that a thin bladed stilleto will work much better than any Busse. This is why I only own what I will use. Would I use a stilleto?....maybe as a letter opener. Do I use my Battle Mistress...yes...because it works well as "multi-tool" in a variety of situations.
BFH said "I agree with Markus... but NO ONE disses a Busse without at least USING one!! Come on."
BFH, what is the difference between dissing a Busse and simply stating an opinion? As I said earlier, Busse owners know why they love Busses. Isn't that enough? Do we have to convert the world to Buss-e-anity...or make then become a Buss-uslim?:) I could careless what some guy on the net says about something. If we happen to agree, well then great. But if I have enough experience with something that works for me consistently, why should what someone says about my knife upset my barrel of fish?
Maybe I shouldn't have even wasted your time posting here. After all, I think what I said was probably posted already. My intention is not to start a flame, but rather to ask if this thread is valuable. It's one man's opinion against another's. Choose your battles wisely and learn when to walk away.
Regards,
Luke Freeouf
 
Lukers,

These forums are for any kind of knife talk in my opinion; I only made a small issue of this because I wanted to expose this person's knowledge on knives when I was attacked. I never said anything nasty to him or even anything challenging him before he told me "you have a lot to learn" and that I "wasted my money". I was also hoping by this discussion maybe he could learn from other people that big knives are not pieces of $h!t... many people use them and they are a big part of the knife world. Before you diss something like big Busses or Busses themselves I would expect you to have at least really used one. He even earlier implied anyone who believed you could chop down any tree with a Busse was "stupid" and called one of our respected members "stupid". No one I saw ever disagreed with him about small knives; everyone here knows small knives can kick some @$$ and have their well established place in Knife Land and are used for many important chores. If not discussing anything important like trying to convice someone the worth of big knives, why discuss at all? This is what these forums are here for. Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings :D

P.S. You can walk away from any knife discussion, debate or disagreement... but is that any fun!?!?! :p
 
Look, I'm not the moderator over here in these parts and I have no more "say" than anyone else BUT...

We Busse-aholics pride ourselves on class, decorum and the notion of actions speaking louder than words. When a Busse is put to the task, it's owner takes a quiet satisfaction in knowing that their selected tool is more than up for any anticipated and most unanticipated tasks.

Let's allow the name calling, personal attacks and school girl cr@p to remain at those others places where they are known for such unreasoned immaturity.

Now, about that folder ....
 
Running Bear I hope you stick around and at least read some of our threads on what a Busse can do and why we enjoy using them.


However,Nimrod said it best
"Let's allow the name calling, personal attacks and school girl cr@p to remain at those others places where they are known for such unreasoned immaturity."

I think this thread has served its purpose, unless someone has something substantially new to say, let this one go. :D:D
 
You can find people who believe any idea you can come up with, and even ones you can't. Yes there are people who think that Busse Combat doesn't make quality knives, INFI is just 1095, the knives are a waste of money, people who buy them don't know anything about knives etc., so what. The simple fact that people believe this doesn't influence my thoughts on the matter.

The amount of worth you should place on someones opinion should come from the strength of their argument, which should be based on experience and extended by logical deduction. Was there anything in the argument that had merit - obviously not, so ignore it. Instead of trying to convince someone who has already made up their mind, why not spend the time talking to people who actually want to learn and exchange ideas.

I have not used a Basic #9, but have used a lot of blades in that class, as well as tomahawks and hatchets and small axes. Yes there are a lot of uses for the larger blade even when you have the tomahawk or small axe. Such things as cutting light brush, limbing small wood, or any knife like task in general.

For most brush work I would rather have a longer blade, about 14" is my personal perference, so I guess that makes me even more of an idiot as now the blade length is three times that of the handle. Of course I would want another smaller blade for more knife like jobs. The Basic #9 is a compromise between a machete, small axe and light use knife.

-Cliff
 
Your not an idiot. The debate was is a big blade over the length seven inchs make a good combat knife. Go to the ATC forum. Look at the picture of bfh holding a big bladed knife (nothing wrong with that to each his own) but the question remains.

BFH is not an idiot either but I was his age once and I thought I knew all there was to know about every thing. He's a great person with values much like my own. I'm twentyfive years old and I look to the older generation for wisdom, because they've been there and done that.

If busse makes a knife that covers all the bases they I might buy one. I prefer a blade length of six to seven inches for outdoor work no bigger. I'm not talking about chopping down trees with a six, or seven inch knife.
 
Both Andy Prisco and myself requested that Running Bear be removed immediately from the forums. Cougar Allen was on top of it. I have never asked that anyone be removed before, but this was an instigator who would not stop. I want to thank Cougar Allen for a job well done. There is no place for troll pollution on these forums.

It is also important to point out that I have never seen a troll treated with as much respect as this one was on the Busse forum.

Thanks,

Jerry Busse
 
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