Someones Bad Steel!

[Aldo Bruno]

It has come to my attention that there is a load of AEB-L being sold that has both inclusions and some real bad stress problems causing it to bow significantly during heat treat. I was also told that waterjetters are having some really bad problems with knife blanks bowing up on there tables once they are cut, causing them to break off the carbide tips to the tune of 80 to 100 dollars per tip. This is typical of coiled steel that has been improperly flattened and more so this coil was probably the center of a larger coil which is the only explanation for why even a piece as short as a knife blank would pop up and break a carbide tip on a water jet. It is an issue we had early on before we added a cold roll process to our steels that all but eliminated the issue.


I want it to be known that this IS NOT OUR AEB-L and that if it was we would do whatever it took to remedy the problem. We sell the best damn knife steel we can get for all of you and take great pride in the fact that our complaint department is ME, and I take care of such issue's as promptly as possible when they come up.


Many of you have raved about our AEB-L and about our other steels as well. I am done with sitting back and taking the humble route while watching people get screwed over by steel suppliers who won't take responsibility for there own F@#*ups. Who ever is responsible for this CRAP that is circulating around, do the right thing, suck it up and replace it!


Regards,

Aldo Bruno

The New Jersey Steel Baron

 

[Alpha Knife Supply]

Be specific about whom you are referring to. You've posted serious accusations about your competitors. Post specific information rather than implicating everyone who sells AEB-L.

Chuck

It has come to my attention that there is a load of AEB-L being sold that has both inclusions and some real bad stress problems causing it to bow significantly during heat treat. I was also told that waterjetters are having some really bad problems with knife blanks bowing up on there tables once they are cut, causing them to break off the carbide tips to the tune of 80 to 100 dollars per tip. This is typical of coiled steel that has been improperly flattened and more so this coil was probably the center of a larger coil which is the only explanation for why even a piece as short as a knife blank would pop up and break a carbide tip on a water jet. It is an issue we had early on before we added a cold roll process to our steels that all but eliminated the issue.


I want it to be known that this IS NOT OUR AEB-L and that if it was we would do whatever it took to remedy the problem. We sell the best damn knife steel we can get for all of you and take great pride in the fact that our complaint department is ME, and I take care of such issue's as promptly as possible when they come up.


Many of you have raved about our AEB-L and about our other steels as well. I am done with sitting back and taking the humble route while watching people get screwed over by steel suppliers who won't take responsibility for there own F@#*ups. Who ever is responsible for this CRAP that is circulating around, do the right thing, suck it up and replace it!


Regards,

Aldo Bruno

The New Jersey Steel Baron

 

[JTknives]

I would also like some more information about this AEB-L as I'm needing to buy some.

 

[Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith]

Aldo, Thank you for changing your user group back to Service Provider. That had confused some people.
Lets all try and keep these discussions open and civil. I know there is always going to be some tension between competitors, and it can quickly get out of hand. If specific complaints are made about one seller or another, the best place would be in The Good, The bad, and The Ugly. Otherwise, broad innuendo should be avoided.

I am going to close this thread, as it has said all it really can. If anyone has had bad AEB-L, they can post a first hand account of their problems with it and name the source. Othgerwise, lets all leave hear-say out of shop talk.