Sometmes the older designs are best

kamagong

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I think the 1911 and Browning Hi-Power are two of best designed pistols around despite the fact that they are both decades old. Nothing feels as good, and they are boringly easy to shoot.

They look good too.

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Three more years and the 1911 celebrates a BIG birthday! I do like the 1911 a great deal. I'm less of a fan of the Hi-Power, but I know a lot of people love it.
 
I have a 1911 and have shot several High Powers also.

Now I've never shot an all accurized 1911 but IMO both are harder for me to shoot accurately than a Glock or even a Hi Point. Now I don't own a Glock or a Hi Point, but I've shot them and I find the triggers to be way better and the sights too.

Sorry to be the devils advocate here, just saying.
 
I find the 1911 to be unsurpassed in handling. The grip is thin for those with small hands, and with a simple replacement of scales, can be made to fit bigger hands (not to mention to add exotic woods, scrimshaw, etc. The straight-pull trigger has never been surpassed.

Both the grip and trigger are reasons I don't like the Hi-Power.
 
Now I've never shot an all accurized 1911 but IMO both are harder for me to shoot accurately than a Glock or even a Hi Point. Now I don't own a Glock or a Hi Point, but I've shot them and I find the triggers to be way better and the sights too.

Sorry to be the devils advocate here, just saying.

Not only are you a devil's advocate, but you must also be a freak of nature! :p

The only real complaint I have of a Glock compared to a 1911 is the trigger. And, I can't even begin to write Hi..... Hi..... PPP... No, can't even write it.

"..... way better......." !!!!!!! :eek: What kind of poor abused "needs to be crushed into metal dust and melted out of its misery" sad excuse of a 1911 did you shoot, that you can say that a H... P... :barf: you know, that thing you said, had a "way better" trigger?

Come over to my house, I'll let you shoot mine, and hopefully your eyes will be opened.

HD, you openly admit to consorting to people who shoot those H...P...?

You are a radical!! ;)

Andy
 
Not only are you a devil's advocate, but you must also be a freak of nature! :p

The only real complaint I have of a Glock compared to a 1911 is the trigger. And, I can't even begin to write Hi..... Hi..... PPP... No, can't even write it.

"..... way better......." !!!!!!! :eek: What kind of poor abused "needs to be crushed into metal dust and melted out of its misery" sad excuse of a 1911 did you shoot, that you can say that a H... P... :barf: you know, that thing you said, had a "way better" trigger?

Come over to my house, I'll let you shoot mine, and hopefully your eyes will be opened.

HD, you openly admit to consorting to people who shoot those H...P...?

You are a radical!! ;)

Andy

LMAO.

I have a US Gov't 1911 made in 1915. My grandad used to have a Hi Power with Nazi Proofs.
 
The 1911 is one of my absolute favorite firearms. I have a Springfield model that is a joy to shoot. People tell me Kimber makes a better version (more reliable, more accurate, etc.), but my Springfield is a true workhorse.
 
I have had one of everything over the years, I suppose. I have had bad 1911s and good 1911s.
The Hi-powers were all good, but they were all new and made by FN, not clones or surplus.
I like them both. They both feel great in the hand. I like to feel steel and wood. Plastic framed pistols just give me a bad feeling. (as cool as some of them are, my hands dont like them)
I had an SA 1911 that kept dropping the rear sight. God knows why.
When it comes to a good, quality firearm of any kind, you just have to be prepared to pay for quality. Especially if it is a semiauto and you want it for self-defense.

If you are not willing or able to pay more than 400$ or so, I'd get a revolver.
Any 38 snubbie will do, as long as it isnt broken.

I used to be a fanatic about the 45 caliber.
I have seen what 9mms, 38s, 40s, even 32s will do to human flesh.
Im not too picky about caliber anymore.
 
Never owned a High Point. I suppose if I needed something to off someone and immediately toss into the river I'd get one, as they're cheap and not likely to malfunction on the first round. Having said that I do own and love a tricked out Glock. It's a great gun. I love my Springfield Milspec too. But my all time fave is my .40 Hi Power.
 
.40 hi-power — my current baby.
(not likely to change, but I kinda want one of those S&W 659's for my Reservoir Dogs costume.)
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I really like my SA 1911-A1 Standard. It was made in Febuary of 1994, I bought it used last October. The previous owner changed the rear sight to a novak rear which I rather like. The Pistol has been very reliable and has good accuracy for a combat pistol. It came with One Wilson Combat 47D magazine, I've since gotten two more, a Chip McCormick Powermag and two factory mags. All the 8 round aftermarket mags needed a break-in period which the factoy mags didn't. Hope you guys like the pictures.

kamagong, Can you tell us more about your SA Custom Carry? (found some pictures of yours on the M1911.org forum in the picture thread) Would like to know the age, rounds fired and any upgrades if you have done any. Not that a Custom Carry needs upgrades. ;)

Thanks,

Heber
 

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I picked up the pistol this past Saturday. It was raining here that day, so I took it home to field strip, clean and lube it. I then crossed my fingers and hoped that I would get the chance to shoot it on Sunday (I hate indoor ranges).

The pistol is stock except for the stag grips. I like the double diamond cocobolos that came with it, but one of the slabs has a chip next to the mainspring retainer hole. It looks like a piece broke off along the checkering and the shop inadvertently missed it. This is unacceptable to me in a new pistol, so I emailed Springfield this morning and they're sending replacements.

I fired a single box of 230-gr. Magtech through it yesterday. First impressions is that this gun is way more accurate than I am, which is always a good thing as far as I'm concerned. I need to get the sights dialed in though, it hits 2 1/2" to the left of POA at 15 yards.
 
When it comes to a good, quality firearm of any kind, you just have to be prepared to pay for quality. Especially if it is a semiauto and you want it for self-defense.

Want to know something funny?
The ONLY 1911 I ever had that was anything like reliable was a cheap-arsed Springfield Mil-Spec. I had Colts, Wilsons Kimbers, etc and they all choked -- on a regular basis.

The only autopistol I have ever had that did not malf, no matter what I fed it or what I did to it, is an even cheaper Ruger P-90. Over 14,000 rounds and not even one malf.

There's cheap, and there's inexpensive.
 
Want to know something funny?
The ONLY 1911 I ever had that was anything like reliable was a cheap-arsed Springfield Mil-Spec. I had Colts, Wilsons Kimbers, etc and they all choked -- on a regular basis.

The only autopistol I have ever had that did not malf, no matter what I fed it or what I did to it, is an even cheaper Ruger P-90. Over 14,000 rounds and not even one malf.

There's cheap, and there's inexpensive.

I've noticed that the basic 1911's are generally more reliable then the tricked out ones. My Springfield 1911-A1 Standard is basicly a modern Mil-spec with a beaver tail grip safety and it's awesome!! When I buy another 1911 it will be another basic model, I'm not looking for a race gun I want a combat pistol! Sure target accuracy at 25 yards won't be great but at 15 yards it will hit minute of bad guy and funtion 100% all the time. :thumbup:

Love the Ruger P series pistols with aluminum frames. A friend has a P95DC 9mm with Decocker which I love to shoot. Feels good in the hand and shoots really well too. Has be very reliable for him also.

Heber
 
I picked up the pistol this past Saturday. It was raining here that day, so I took it home to field strip, clean and lube it. I then crossed my fingers and hoped that I would get the chance to shoot it on Sunday (I hate indoor ranges).

The pistol is stock except for the stag grips. I like the double diamond cocobolos that came with it, but one of the slabs has a chip next to the mainspring retainer hole. It looks like a piece broke off along the checkering and the shop inadvertently missed it. This is unacceptable to me in a new pistol, so I emailed Springfield this morning and they're sending replacements.

I fired a single box of 230-gr. Magtech through it yesterday. First impressions is that this gun is way more accurate than I am, which is always a good thing as far as I'm concerned. I need to get the sights dialed in though, it hits 2 1/2" to the left of POA at 15 yards.

Thanks for the information. Springfield will take care of you for sure and sounds like they have. They are good people.

Heber
 
Want to know something funny?
The ONLY 1911 I ever had that was anything like reliable was a cheap-arsed Springfield Mil-Spec. I had Colts, Wilsons Kimbers, etc and they all choked -- on a regular basis.

The only autopistol I have ever had that did not malf, no matter what I fed it or what I did to it, is an even cheaper Ruger P-90. Over 14,000 rounds and not even one malf.

There's cheap, and there's inexpensive.

You make a valid point. My Milspec Springfield has taken some serious abuse and never even flinched. And you're right about the Ruger too. Everything Ruger I've ever had was built like a tank.
 
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