Sorry for the noob thread. 653k regarding balis

[Demonium]

Sorry, but this law is still fairly confusing to me.
I understand most of what they mean, but does the latch on a bali make one "detent"? Do the thumb/finger curves at the very base of the blade+top of the handles suffice as a thumb stud?
I have no desire to use one as a weapon, but as a tool, being that I'm constantly using knives with one hand in my line of work. I've recently aquired a couple of balis, and they're incredibly easy to manipulate into the open position while I am using my other hand for something else. I can use them at my work I believe, being that I also reside there and the warehouse I work in isn't open to the public; but I could be wrong on that one.
I've done a little research on balis in California, but the search function isn't working properly, so I've only been able to read threads I come upon manually.
Again, I'm positive this has been discussed a thousand times, so I'm sorry for the question.
In any case, clarification would be very much appreciated.
Thanks guys.

 

[Danzz]

Sorry, but this law is still fairly confusing to me.
I understand most of what they mean, but does the latch on a bali make one "detent"? Do the thumb/finger curves at the very base of the blade+top of the handles suffice as a thumb stud?

This is just an amateur opinion, but I don't think the latch counts as a detent, being that it doesn't bias the blade towards a closed position when the knife is partially opened.
One could argue that if a hole in the blade (like in a BM Griptilian) counts as a "thumb stud", the "guard" or "horns" could also, except that they are not practical for opening the balisong by applying force with the thumb. Actually, I just tried using one of the horns of my BM-42 as a flipper, much like the method for opening a Kershaw Assisted Opener or a CRKT M-16 model. This gives the balisong blade a little "kick start" to go into an opening, making the use of the horns as a flipper plausible but not really practical.
Of course, this whole thing is null and void considering that the majority of places ban balisongs because they are considered switchblades, gravity knives, or "inertia knives" just because of the style of the knife (...it looks dangerous in movies...), and not because it might just be lacking a proper detent. I'm sure someone who knows California will be able to say stuff about this better than me.

 

[R.W.Clark]

Per Cal Appeals court ruling People v Quattrone, butterfly/balisongs are gravity knives. This is reguardless of any other additional features that may or may not be on the knife. Any bali with a blade over 2" is illegal per 653k.

 

[Dokumoto]

This maybe foolish, but I was just wondering does any one make a "California legal" butterfly knife. I know there are the “key chain” ones, but what I mean a full size knife (minus the long blade) knife. Maybe with a blade the usual length but only 1.9 inch tip sharpened or more ridiculous but still legal, a blades with full sized handles but only a 1.9 inch blade. Silly I know, but legal. Seeing there is a market for 1.9 switch blades… I’m sorry if I am annoying anyone with these types of questions I keep asking these types of question but I like the idea of running up to the line but, not crossing it just to sort of make a point of the ridiculousness of the line in the first place. But just wondering if any one has my type of humor…