Spanish folding knives typology - part 2: The folding knives from Andalusia and other stories - A se

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The folding knife is so rooted to the Spanish culture that no so long ago it was an habit to carry it by the poor, the rich, the man from the field and from the city. The youngest and oldest had their own folding knife that were displayed with pride.

This devotion was so fervent that among the people from Spain that, as Rafael Martinez del Porton describes on his book “The folding knives: study and collection”, in some regions such as Cartagena there was the tradition of “tomar la faca” (taking the blade). This ceremony was the ritual of passage from a boy to a man.

This ceremony was rooted to the mining people from this zone; when the “majo” (majo is an old term for describing a young boy, on the most cases under-age.) reached the 18 years old he took the blade, something like being name a knight. The majo wasn’t independent until that moment, and he should stay away from drinking wine or having a girlfriend.

This ceremony, as almost every popular celebration, was a party on the town, were relatives, majos and girls drank and danced. The dance was interrumpted so the majo could solemnly took the face from his father’s hands. The father made a cross in the air and said, “My son, I give you this face. This face courted your mother. It has not killed anyone, but it made me being respected. May God want you to be a man, as your grandparents did and your father did.¹

Sadly, something so beautiful, a tool used for generations, acquire a really bad reputation. A shady and traitor weapon, the tool of the unscrupulous and the wicked, this people give the folding knife a bad reputation.

In this way we can find the words of the Duke of Tobar, who affirmed in his book “Viajeros románticos por España” (“Romatic travelers through Spain”) that it is typical to engrave on the sword “Do not draw me without reason, and do not sheathe me without honor” but this words cannot fit on a folding knife, because it was a plebeian and populace weapon.

However, this completely distorts the importance of the folding knife, a tool that serves on the fields, trips, hunting, knife and cork on one tool, a blade that cuts and serves.

It cuts equally bread, meat and fish, and it can be even used as a spoon, with a piece of bread punctured on the tip and a bit of skill to drain every last drop of a stew.

We cannot forget on this point his use as a defensive weapon and in some cases, an honor keeper; we are talking about the folding knives duels. On this point, we will focus on Andalusia, the land where it comes the Sevilian folding knife, a land forged with sweet, fire and steel.

In that way, contradicting the Duke of Tobar, the fascination of these people for the folding knife reaches no limit. You can find any kind of engravings on these ancients folding knives such as:

“Do not unfold me without a reason and do not fold me without honor”

“The man propose and God dispose”

“If this viper bites you there is no remedy on the apothecary”

This kind of illustration shows the respect and the fascination the people of Andalucia have, they are tools but with a lot of temper.

As Teófilo Gautier pointed out on his book “Travelling through Spain”, the master of the dueling with folding knives are so many in Spain than the duelist masters in Paris.

Every folding knife “swordsman” has his own secret cuts and blows and they can recognized as the artist of a blow just seeing the wound, in the same way that you can identify a painter by some of their brushstrokes.

The folding knives from Andalusia
Making an approach to the folding knives from Andalucia, we can find the Sevilian and Cordoban folding knives, curved folding knives, similar to the ones from Albacete but more stylish; the most noble and refined among the folding knives.

The ways of the Spanish folding knives are linked to Andalucia, with figures such as the “baratero”, people not exclusive from Andalucia but so abundant in this region.

On this matter, we find cities such as Seville or Almería, with winding streets, narrow and steep. These cities were the then of the worst of the worst, people of hard life, thugs, thieves and hullers. These people used to call their folding knives with knives such as: mojosas, chairas, teas, cortes, herramientas, hierros and abanicos.

The folding knives and their fencing is an ancient art of uncertain origin, however born or not in Andalusia, this lost knowledge will not be the same without the Andalusian folding knives. Masters in the fencing taught the bravest their rules, deadly blows, and how to avoid it. Dangerous people populate these lands, where you can figures such as the charrán and the baratero.

The charrán is no more than a slacker, a pariah that has made the art of doing nothing in his way of living. If he lives long enough on this life to get older, he will become a baratero, if a folding knife do not end up with such a tragic life.

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Le Charran – Gustavo Doré – a: L’Espagne / par Le Baron CH. Davillier ;
The baratero was not exclusive from Andalusia, but here is where you could find such a refined ruffian. Men with an enviable mastery of the folding knife, an ability to steal and scamming never seen before. Feared by the players of illegals games.

Bad luck of the travelers who finds him in a dark alley, or poor devil who has the bad luck to start a fight with these barateros.

Barateros, with their Sevillian and Cordoban folding knives in hand dueled throughout the city, people from the suburbs that had some unwritten rules, the rules of honor amongst thieves. An honor that is maintained with steel, mastery and sometimes a bit of luck. (It is easy to be wounded by your own folding knife since it comes with no guard, so in the moment it got stuck by a bone your hand would slip across your own blade)

gustave-dore-desjarretazo-navaja-224x300.png
Some folding knives were perfected and crafted like the way of the knives from Arkansas or the Bowie, to remove the guts of a man or penetrate him from one part to the other if necessary.

In order to conclude with this post, since an image worth more than a thousand words, I leave you here some images of my Andalusian folding knives.

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In this case, I am portraying a Sevillian folding knife compared with a Cordoban one. As you can see, the Sevillian folding knives resembles the ones from Albacete but more stylized, meanwhile the Cordoban has a straight shape that ends in oval or curved shaped.

I hope you liked this post! Unitl next writing!

  1. Rafael Martinez del Porton – The knives: A study and collection – Higher Council for Scientific Research – 1980.

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The folding knife is so rooted to the Spanish culture that no so long ago it was an habit to carry it by the poor, the rich, the man from the field and from the city. The youngest and oldest had their own folding knife that were displayed with pride.

This devotion was so fervent that among the people from Spain that, as Rafael Martinez del Porton describes on his book “The folding knives: study and collection”, in some regions such as Cartagena there was the tradition of “tomar la faca” (taking the blade). This ceremony was the ritual of passage from a boy to a man.

This ceremony was rooted to the mining people from this zone; when the “majo” (majo is an old term for describing a young boy, on the most cases under-age.) reached the 18 years old he took the blade, something like being name a knight. The majo wasn’t independent until that moment, and he should stay away from drinking wine or having a girlfriend.

This ceremony, as almost every popular celebration, was a party on the town, were relatives, majos and girls drank and danced. The dance was interrumpted so the majo could solemnly took the face from his father’s hands. The father made a cross in the air and said, “My son, I give you this face. This face courted your mother. It has not killed anyone, but it made me being respected. May God want you to be a man, as your grandparents did and your father did.¹

Sadly, something so beautiful, a tool used for generations, acquire a really bad reputation. A shady and traitor weapon, the tool of the unscrupulous and the wicked, this people give the folding knife a bad reputation.

In this way we can find the words of the Duke of Tobar, who affirmed in his book “Viajeros románticos por España” (“Romatic travelers through Spain”) that it is typical to engrave on the sword “Do not draw me without reason, and do not sheathe me without honor” but this words cannot fit on a folding knife, because it was a plebeian and populace weapon.

However, this completely distorts the importance of the folding knife, a tool that serves on the fields, trips, hunting, knife and cork on one tool, a blade that cuts and serves.

It cuts equally bread, meat and fish, and it can be even used as a spoon, with a piece of bread punctured on the tip and a bit of skill to drain every last drop of a stew.

We cannot forget on this point his use as a defensive weapon and in some cases, an honor keeper; we are talking about the folding knives duels. On this point, we will focus on Andalusia, the land where it comes the Sevilian folding knife, a land forged with sweet, fire and steel.

In that way, contradicting the Duke of Tobar, the fascination of these people for the folding knife reaches no limit. You can find any kind of engravings on these ancients folding knives such as:

“Do not unfold me without a reason and don not fold me without honor”

“The man propose and God dispose”

“If this viper bites you there is no remedy on the apothecary”

This kind of illustration shows the respect and the fascination the people of Andalucia have, they are tools but with a lot of temper.

As Teófilo Gautier pointed out on his book “Travelling through Spain”, the master of the dueling with folding knives are so many in Spain than the duelist masters in Paris.

Every folding knife “swordsman” has his own secret cuts and blows and they can be recognize the artist of a blow just seeing the wound, in the same way that you can identify a painter by some of their brushstrokes.

The folding knives from Andalusia
Making an approach to the folding knives from Andalucia, we can find the Sevilian and Cordoban folding knives, curved folding knives, similar to the ones from Albacete but more stylish; the most noble and refined among the folding knives.

The ways of the Spanish folding knives are linked to Andalucia, with figures such as the “baratero”, people not exclusive from Andalucia but so abundant in this region.

On this matter, we find cities such as Seville or Almería, with winding streets, narrow and steep. These cities were the then of the worst of the worst, people of hard life, thugs, thieves and hullers. These people used to call their folding knives with knives such as: mojosas, chairas, teas, cortes, herramientas, hierros and abanicos.

The folding knives and their fencing is an ancient art of uncertain origin, however born or not in Andalusia, this lost knowledge will not be the same without the Andalusian folding knives. Masters in the fencing taught the bravest their rules, deadly blows, and how to avoid it. Dangerous people populate these lands, where you can figures such as the charrán and the baratero.

The charrán is no more than a slacker, a pariah that has made the art of doing nothing in his way of living. If he lives long enough on this life to get older, he will become a baratero, if a folding knife do not end up with such a tragic life.

charran-gustavo-dore-navajas-184x300.png

Le Charran – Gustavo Doré – a: L’Espagne / par Le Baron CH. Davillier ;
The baratero was not exclusive from Andalusia, but here is where you could find such a refined ruffian. Men with an enviable mastery of the folding knife, an ability to steal and scamming never seen before. Feared by the players of illegals games.

Bad luck of the travelers who finds him in a dark alley, or poor devil who has the bad luck to start a fight with these barateros.

Barateros, with their Sevillian and Cordoban folding knives in hand dueled throughout the city, people from the suburbs that had some unwritten rules, the rules of honor amongst thieves. An honor that is maintained with steel, mastery and sometimes a bit of luck. (It is easy to be wounded by your own folding knife since it comes with no guard, so in the moment it got stuck by a bone your hand would slip across your own blade)

gustave-dore-desjarretazo-navaja-224x300.png
Some folding knives were perfected and crafted like the way of the knives from Arkansas or the Bowie, to remove the guts of a man or penetrate him from one part to the other if necessary.

In order to conclude with this post, since an image worth more than a thousand words, I leave you here some images of my Andalusian folding knives.

In this case, I am portraying a Sevillian folding knife compared with a Cordoban one. As you can see, the Sevillian folding knives resembles the ones from Albacete but more stylized, meanwhile the Cordoban has a straight shape that ends in oval or curved shaped.

I hope you liked this post! Unitl next writing!

  1. Rafael Martinez del Porton – The knives: A study and collection – Higher Council for Scientific Research – 1980.

Fascinating stuff, José! I should receive my first Albaceta knife soon. I look forward to your posts.

--Vicente
 
"Every folding knife “swordsman” has his own secret cuts and blows and they can be recognize the artist of a blow just seeing the wound, in the same way that you can identify a painter by some of their brushstrokes." :( How does one practice this kind of painting? Do I want to know :confused:

Thanks José, I could see it all as if I were there. Great read. As always you have inspired me. Maybe there will be a 2019 version of a ArtesaniaHerreros knife for me - need to think on which style - CORDOBAN one has my eye.

¡Salud! Ray

I hope you folks who have a knife ordered from José will shows your treasure when it arrives.
 
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"Every folding knife “swordsman” has his own secret cuts and blows and they can be recognize the artist of a blow just seeing the wound, in the same way that you can identify a painter by some of their brushstrokes." :( How does one practice this kind of painting? Do I want to know :confused:

Thanks José, I could see it all as if I were there. Great read. As always you have inspired me. Maybe there will be a 2019 version of a ArtesaniaHerreros knife for me - need to think on which style.

¡Salud! Ray

I hope you folks who have a knife ordered from José will shows your treasure when it arrives.
I like to use a "Z"! ;)
 
“Do not unfold me without a reason and don not fold me without honor”
Awesome proverb.
Might just use that for my signature quote :cool:
I also like the tale on the custom of the handing of the knife from father to son as a rite of passage. What a way to become a man. A little more real than a high school or college diploma.
Thanks for the history, Jose'. Really great stuff.

And yes, to quote RayseM RayseM , please share pics of your knives from Spain with us here :)
 
Gracias, Jose. Las Navajas de Espana siempre eran algo que yo quiria estudiar mas. I unfortunately may not carry a proper Navaja as most tend to be a little bit bigger than I would like to carry. Yo compre una navaja que es mas chica y miene de Catalunya. I believe the blade comes from Solsona, the former and forgotten Cutlery Capital of Spain during the early-mid 20th century.
 
Prester John Prester John , Thanks a lot Vicent! It took a while to gather all the information and lots of reading. Even in Albacete (the cutlery capital of Spain) it is not easy to find information related to old Spanish folding knives or folding knives fencing.

Fodderwing Fodderwing , thanks a lot! :D I hope you have enjoyed the reading even with my poor English knowledge haha.

RayseM RayseM hahaha sadly that was long time ago, there is no longer fencing with folding knives :p. Un saludo

afishhunter afishhunter thanks a lot! :D

Pinemoon Pinemoon , if you use it on your signature do not forget to correct my typos! ;) thanks a lot Ray!

Prester John Prester John , Z from Jay-Z or from the Zorro?

screened porch screened porch , this face: https://media.giphy.com/media/3o72F8t9TDi2xVnxOE/giphy.gif

RayseM RayseM , simply beautiful.

eisman eisman , if you speak Spanish I can give you a lot of information ;) just send me a pm.

SIG96 SIG96 , muchísimas gracias! Excelente dominio del español! Solsona is (or was) one of the former capitals of cutlery from Spain, but it is a “French” like cutlery, they are designs from France mostly. There is a reknown brand called “Pallares” you might have heard about them. Muchísimas gracias y mucho gusto en conocerte :)
 
Haha!
You mean you don't listen to hip-hop or rap?
He's married to Beyonce.
Sorry, no. Classical, jazz, big band, rock (mostly '50s to '70s), country (old: Williams, Cash, Nelson, Haggard). Favorite is classical, though, primarily baroque and romantic (Bach, Handel, Beethoven, Vivaldi, etc.). I love the Spanish guitar and Mariachi music, too. Favorite singers are Sinatra and Pavarotti. Lots of different stuff, but just don't hear a lot of new stuff that appeals to me.
 
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Sorry, no. Classical, jazz, big band, rock (mostly '50s to '70s), country (old: Williams, Cash, Nelson, Haggard). Favorite is classical, though, primarily baroque and romantic (Bach, Handel, Beethoven, Vivaldi, etc.). Favorite singers are Sinatra and Pavarotti. Just don't hear a lot of new stuff that appeals to me.
Agreed.
I don't find much new music all that appealing either.
Classical is something I've been thinking about sampling. Probably a good way to unwind...
 
Agreed.
I don't find much new music all that appealing either.
Classical is something I've been thinking about sampling. Probably a good way to unwind...
You can't go wrong with Beethoven's symphonies or piano sonatas.

Flamenco music would be good as you practice fencing with your navaja!
 
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Well then - a good place to begin -


I could go on but don't want to hijack the thread. In this case I don't think José will mind - both music and artist are Spanish Classics.

Enjoy. Ray

Sorry I could not resist :D one more!

 
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