Spetnaz spring-loaded knife

Yes this is NRS2:

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Modern (not Soviet era, but Russian) version of WWII NR.

Nozh Razvedchika - Ranger/Scout Knife in Russia major task for razvedchik - scout was to capture and bring back nazy officer. So they was best of the best. They use knives a lot because that time it was not other scilent weapons around. And NR - "finka" or what Russians think finnish knife is (kind of based on pukko but bigger, longer and with S-shaped guard).

Modern NR2 by Tula Armory has two modifications - NR2 and NRS2 ("strelayushiy" - shooting). Of course any plant in market economy can came up with one or other model this days, but it does not men that they are in wide use. This is more like - "look what our engineers can do!"

I am pretty sure that so called Jumping knife has nothing to do with this. I heart about jumping knives when I was a kid way before NRS2 was made by Tula.

Of course each unit may has their armory shop and I can imagine there a gifted solder serving his time get bored and made some mechanical toys - jumping knives... But it was nothing like approved weapon, like AK47 etc.

Thanks, Vassili.
 
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here is the law....

Section 1245. Ballistic knives

(a) Prohibition and penalties for possession, manufacture, sale, or
importation
Whoever in or affecting interstate commerce, within any Territory
or possession of the United States, within Indian country (as
defined in section 1151 of title 18), or within the special
maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States (as
defined in section 7 of title 18), knowingly possesses,
manufactures, sells, or imports a ballistic knife shall be fined as
provided in title 18, or imprisoned not more than ten years, or
both.
(b) Prohibition and penalties for possession or use during
commission of Federal crime of violence
Whoever possesses or uses a ballistic knife in the commission of
a Federal crime of violence shall be fined as provided in title 18,
or imprisoned not less than five years and not more than ten years,
or both.
(c) Exceptions
The exceptions provided in paragraphs (1), (2), and (3) of
section 1244 of this title with respect to switchblade knives shall
apply to ballistic knives under subsection (a) of this section.
(d) ''Ballistic knife'' defined
As used in this section, the term ''ballistic knife'' means a
knife with a detachable blade that is propelled by a
spring-operated mechanism.
 
Recently the Spike TV show , Deadliest Warriors, featured an episode The Green Beret vs the Spetznaz (Russian). One of the weapons used by the Spetznaz was the spring loaded knife. So apparently it's still being made and used.
 
I once owned a book by Carey Schofield titled "Inside the Soviet Army".
http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Soviet-Army-Carey-Schofield/dp/0747204187

Carey Schofield was a british journalist lucky enough to gain access to the soviet military right before the collapse. She obviously knew the right people to call, and in the spirit of Glasnost and Perestroika she was actually given permission to interview a whole range of Soviet soldiers and officers.

One interesting encounter was when she spent time watching and interviewing a group of spetsnaz soldiers. One of the gadget shown to her was a knife capable of shooting bullet, just like this Russian NRS2. That's why I said the knife is of Soviet origin. If I remember correctly the Soviet knife uses 7.62 Tokarev pistol round, unlike the current silenced one.
 
godot said:
Recently the Spike TV show , Deadliest Warriors, featured an episode The Green Beret vs the Spetznaz (Russian). One of the weapons used by the Spetznaz was the spring loaded knife. So apparently it's still being made and used.
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I saw this britt's shows... Where they pull their information from still remains mystery for me. But I doubt Russian Military gave them all they need by request. Can you imagine like - some Russian TV company cameing to SOCOM to make detailed report on US special forces?

I am seeing some Russian "military expert" on CNN time to time, who some time but not too often became "economy expert" or "historian" (my bad I have good memory). I suspect that he is just a neighbor of CNN reporter who happen to speak English fluently and willing to tell anything he asked for as an expert. Last time I saw him - he was talking about high precision of soviet "Grad" rocket launcher which allow Georgian to prevent civilian casualty when they shell with it Tskinvaly during last year Olimpic Games (30 years old highly precise multiple rocket launcher - can you imagine!!!). So sources like CNN or Spike TV or any other TV is not good source of information, I suspect they repeat all known urban legends and add something on their own.

Thanks, Vassili
 
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yeah the spike tv show is entertainment and nothing more.

I wish they, and a bunch of "news" shows would put a nice big disclaimer at the commerical breaks like mythbusters does with their "do not try this at home" bumps.
 
Ballistic (blade-launching) knives are illegal in all jurisdictions, all 50 states, nationwide. I clarified this with CHP a while back. (I asked due to various other patterns I was taking on a roadtrip.)

This was a CHP officer who told me this; I haven't bothered to confirm with a federal office, since I don't own an ballistics.

(edited to add: oops, redundant post. Sorry.)

thx - cpr
 
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The Soviets (and now the Russians) have a knife that can fire a special silenced round from the handle. The knife is essentially a single shot pistol. This might have something to do with the confusion.

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http://www.janes.com/articles/Janes-Infantry-Weapons/NRS-scouting-knife-Russian-Federation.html
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I believe that the chinese produced a 4 shot version. which is shown in one of the janes referance books. their "guide to special forces" or something similar.
 
It should also be added that the spring powered "ballistic knives" are legal to own and possess without the spring, without the spring it is just like any other knife, only when you also possess the (a?) spring do you run in to big legal trouble, according to the AG in my state.
 
i had one of them back in the mid '80s and imho its junk anyway, i find it hard to believe that anyone would depend on one in a combat situation, mine wasnt very accurate and was not very powerfull, maybe some are better than mine was but IIRC mine cost ~$90 or so so it wasnt a cheapie, i dont think they are much more than a toy and i used mine to shoot at a bale of hay some till i got tired of it and it eventually "walked off" with one of my buds never to be seen again, which probably wasnt a bad thing as they are illegal now.

ya could also shoot it with the round deal on the blade and it was like a baton, i dont think that would have worked well either.

i bought it at a gunshow FWIW.
 
para-frame said:
It should also be added that the spring powered "ballistic knives" are legal to own and possess without the spring, without the spring it is just like any other knife, only when you also possess the (a?) spring do you run in to big legal trouble, according to the AG in my state.
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Well not like any other knife, as it is even more broken than a folder. Would rather have a Bilbo's Sting sword from United Cutlery. :D
 
One of the comments I remember about these was that the spring power - the rated foot pounds of force - wasn't high enough to do very much. Propelling the blade 5 to 20 feet sounds cool, but at the end of it's short flight, it's just falling from gravity.

Had gone fifty yards and penetrated more than 3 inches, then it might do something. In the day they were considered a gun show joke - anyone who bought it was considered pretty juvenile if they thought it could really work. The term mall ninja was still years ahead in the future.

It is, at best, a collector item. I'll leave it to Practical -Tactical respondents to clarify exactly what good a bladeless knife handle can do in combat.
 
tirod3 said:
It is, at best, a collector item. I'll leave it to Practical -Tactical respondents to clarify exactly what good a bladeless knife handle can do in combat.
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at a guess, about the same as a closed folder, pocket sized torch, or closed multi-tool.
useful as a kuboton or fistload, but there are far better alternatives (including the three listed above, less legal trouble)
 
Man, this thread makes me miss VG...
 
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