splintered the holes for corby bolts on handle

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I splintered the scales on my knife while drilling the last hole for my corby rivet would mixing some sort of adhesive in with shavings from shaping it to make sort of makeshift wood filler work? my only concern with that is what it would like dry plus im going to be staining the scales so im not sure if that part would stain im also going to be using a polyurethane sealer would that cover it up enough with out having to do anything special? and what are some ways i can prevent this in the future? Any tips or advice is greatly appreciated! Also I apologize if I posted this in the wrong section.


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For that shallow a splinter (does not look to be through and through) I would mix up a batch of 2 ton epoxy in clear and fill it. Just my 2 cents worth.

Larry
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I have seen this when someone drills through and the drill bit comes out the backside into no backing at all. Did you drill through this with a piece of wood under it? Or did you drill half way through and flip it over and meet in the middle? Both methods prevent a "blowout".
 
I am stumped then. The only thing I can think that might help would be using a step bit or a pilot hole.
 
Welcome to Shop Talk.

Looks like you have at least three options; 1) Leave it alone and move on with motivation to the next better build, 2) try to pack it with sanding dust and flood that with superglue several times. Then grind back to flush after setup, or 3) considering the blown bits in the walnut look to be only a few thousandths deep in your pic, just continue to work down the main flat of your slabs until you reach the bottom and everything is flush. Obvious caveat to not file/grind through the solid head of your corbys.

Try to think - "fix it right" before resorting to "camouflage and pray".

So from what I see here, the third option is a no brainer. Many knife handles are too fat IMHO and a slightly slimmer handle with nice crisp lines (read refining opportunity here) will beat a chipped-out or glue-filled knife handle any day. Superglue fill works well enough for smallish natural voids/cracks in handle materials but generally stinks for this application as shown. It will fill the blow out but it will likely be much darker and will not accept stain at all after it hardens.

BTW, friends don't let friends finish knife handles with polyurethane. EVER! Please trust me on this one.

You can help avoid this in the future by using sharp bits/counterbores and/or backing your exit path with another material as hard or harder than your slab stuff. In another plug for superglue; I have smeared a thin layer over the backside exit out before drilling. Just let it cure a few and drill. Then grind off as you finish shaping scales. Easy and fast way to minimize chipping on sensitive materials like DI burl or irregular (natural) handle materials that aren't going to get much help from some flattish backside support.
 
Awesome thank you Andy! In regard to finishing with the poly though, do you recommend using something different or do you just personally prefer knives that arent sealed?
 
I agree with Andy...sand it down. What I do in a situation like this is flood with thin CA first, let it dry, and the sand it down.

Using a piloted counterbore will usually avoid this problem.
 
Wood handle materials benefit from being sealed in my opinion - even stabilized stuff; especially user knives that will see blood, dishwater, etc. The main functional issue with poly finishes is that they tend to be film-forming. Not good for the long run, especially if that maintenance falls on the non-maker user. Wood moves. Fact of life as long as there are changes in humidity and temperature. Chipping will likely become a problem with many film finishes because of that. They would likely need a complete strip and refinish to look acceptable from my experience.

Besides all that - I have yet to see a poly finish that doesn't look like a dip in cheap plastic regardless of material to be finished. But I am biased so grain of salt is advised here...

Alternatives to polyurethane are mostly old school. Tung oil, boiled linseed oil, Kramer's Best, etc. A more modern oil-type finish is Birchwood Casey's Tru-Oil, but it too is formulated not just to seal, but build toward a shiny film-like finish that's too glossy for this application to my eye. It can be scuffed back to a matte finish though and it is relatively easy to clean and recoat over time.

The other mentioned natural oils will likely all darken most woods used for handle material over time but the other benefits greatly outweigh this issue. Floor wax or Ren wax make good final finishes for both steel and many handle materials. They help minimize fingerprints and "morning-after spit dot" corrosion when you finally show them off to your buds.

Look at what the replica gunstock makers are doing if you want a real education on these topics. We have a lot to learn from them.
 
Wood handle materials benefit from being sealed in my opinion - even stabilized stuff; especially user knives that will see blood, dishwater, etc. The main functional issue with poly finishes is that they tend to be film-forming. Not good for the long run, especially if that maintenance falls on the non-maker user. Wood moves. Fact of life as long as there are changes in humidity and temperature. Chipping will likely become a problem with many film finishes because of that. They would likely need a complete strip and refinish to look acceptable from my experience.

Besides all that - I have yet to see a poly finish that doesn't look like a dip in cheap plastic regardless of material to be finished. But I am biased so grain of salt is advised here...

Alternatives to polyurethane are mostly old school. Tung oil, boiled linseed oil, Kramer's Best, etc. A more modern oil-type finish is Birchwood Casey's Tru-Oil, but it too is formulated not just to seal, but build toward a shiny film-like finish that's too glossy for this application to my eye. It can be scuffed back to a matte finish though and it is relatively easy to clean and recoat over time.

The other mentioned natural oils will likely all darken most woods used for handle material over time but the other benefits greatly outweigh this issue. Floor wax or Ren wax make good final finishes for both steel and many handle materials. They help minimize fingerprints and "morning-after spit dot" corrosion when you finally show them off to your buds.

Look at what the replica gunstock makers are doing if you want a real education on these topics. We have a lot to learn from them.

Andy, great advice. I'm very partial to Danish oil, really any oil finish, on natural wood. I like my knives to age and oil accomplishes that very well. I did an oil/urethane mix finish from one of the major finish companies that I really liked. Penetrates and it forms a film. It is made for exterior use on wood surfaces that see a lot of moisture. It's held up swimmingly so far. I'll have to look at the can when I get home and see what it's called, I can't remember of the top of my head.

I will wholeheartedly second the suggestion to talk to and research what the gun stock guys are using. They are usually great at finishing wood for stability and the long haul.
 
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